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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @kuyaz
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      @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

      @francesco-provino

      Am i right to say better to just use the whole array on the host and locate it to root partition? and use file image instead for flexibility?

      Of course, you never use anything but file image.

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        kuyaz @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller i mean i want to experiment between perc and sw raid to learn the diff... so i guess i dont have that option to play around...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @kuyaz
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          @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

          @scottalanmiller i mean i want to experiment between perc and sw raid to learn the diff... so i guess i dont have that option to play around...

          Ah, just for learning, that is fine. But RAID is RAID, it's not like you really learn much. You should learn MD in a lab, not on this hardware. You can't easily make an MD RAID array on top of the PERC using the image files to learn anything you want with MD.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @kuyaz
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            @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

            @scottalanmiller i mean i want to experiment between perc and sw raid to learn the diff... so i guess i dont have that option to play around...

            If you want to learn how to manage md, just make a virtual machine with a lot of small virtual drives. Much easier and safer if you're just wanting to learn (if you completely wipe something, it's only a vm.)

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

              @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

              @scottalanmiller i mean i want to experiment between perc and sw raid to learn the diff... so i guess i dont have that option to play around...

              If you want to learn how to manage md, just make a virtual machine with a lot of small virtual drives. Much easier and safer if you're just wanting to learn (if you completely wipe something, it's only a vm.)

              Exactly

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                kuyaz @Francesco Provino
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                @francesco-provino said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

                AFAIK, RAID 1 will improve read 2x ? maybe slower write but not so much?

                CMIIW.

                Thanks.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @kuyaz
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                  @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                  @francesco-provino said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                  One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

                  AFAIK, RAID 1 will improve read 2x ? maybe slower write but not so much?

                  CMIIW.

                  Thanks.

                  Read is 2x, Write is 1x. There is no write penalty whatsoever.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    https://www.storagecraft.com/blog/raid-performance/

                    http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/01/practical-raid-performance/

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                      kuyaz @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller yes thats what i think of. so @Francesco-Provino statement is incorrect? : One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @kuyaz
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                        @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                        @scottalanmiller yes thats what i think of. so @Francesco-Provino statement is incorrect? : One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

                        RAID 1 is 2x the speed of a single drive for reads, and 1x for writes. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts. You can define that as fast or slow, that's subjective. But the speed compared to a single drive is what it is, no exceptions.

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                          Francesco Provino @kuyaz
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                          @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                          @scottalanmiller yes thats what i think of. so @Francesco-Provino statement is incorrect? : One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

                          @kuyaz a 7200rpm (I hope) drive is slow by today standard, even more for a virtualization lab. Today's standard is SSD.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
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                            @francesco-provino said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                            @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                            @scottalanmiller yes thats what i think of. so @Francesco-Provino statement is incorrect? : One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

                            @kuyaz a 7200rpm (I hope) drive is slow by today standard, even more for a virtualization lab. Today's standard is SSD.

                            And that's just for a laptop!

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m
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                              iDRAC FTW!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                                @wrx7m said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                iDRAC FTW!

                                iDRAC is pretty awesome.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @kuyaz
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                                  @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                  @scottalanmiller yes thats what i think of. so @Francesco-Provino statement is incorrect? : One last thing: raid 1 on standard SATA hdd is gonna be slow. Quite slow.

                                  It really comes down to what speed you are expecting.

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                                  • Reid CooperR
                                    Reid Cooper @kuyaz
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                                    @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                    tried this but fail : https://serverfault.com/questions/531269/linux-drivers-for-dell-poweredge-server

                                    it seems dell is not really friendly to fedora 😞

                                    @scottalanmiller help 😄

                                    I looked at the results there. ServerFault doesn't seem to know servers very well, their top response was less than stellar. That wouldn't have flown around here.

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                                    • Reid CooperR
                                      Reid Cooper @Obsolesce
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                                      @tim_g said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                      What do you need the display driver for?

                                      What exactly are you installing that isn't Fedora 26 "Minimal" or "Fedora Server Edition"?

                                      I know if you do install a GUI on a server, Cinnamon is a bad choice. Gnome or XFCE would work better.

                                      This ^^^

                                      Servers don't need display drivers. There is a good reason why Dell doesn't put any energy into this.

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                                      • Reid CooperR
                                        Reid Cooper @Obsolesce
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                                        @tim_g said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                        Can you run virt-manager from a Linux desktop and connect to your 720 that way?

                                        Even from just a VM on top of Windows or something. Doesn't need to be a dedicated Linux workstation.

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                                        • Reid CooperR
                                          Reid Cooper @kuyaz
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                                          @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                          I have problem with starting the Linux desktop. it seems the display is not set properly.
                                          still figuring how to set the display properly in x11.

                                          Why are you using X11 on fedora 26? Wayland is the default.

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                                          • Reid CooperR
                                            Reid Cooper @kuyaz
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                                            @kuyaz said in Dell R720 Display problem with Fedora 26 server:

                                            @francesco-provino i assumae your idrac is enterprise license? mine is express only 😞 sad... haha...
                                            official price of the idrac enterprise license is 400$ ++ .... -.-

                                            This is a reason to use SuperMicro. That stuff is free.

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