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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

      Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

      Illinois is such a horrible state. Income taxes and high fees.

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad @JaredBusch
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        @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

        @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

        Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

        Illinois is such a horrible state. Income taxes and high fees.

        The only tough parts about Texas is high property taxes and sales tax on almost everything. In Texas, you never truly own your house as your always paying taxes on it. Miss a few years and the county repsees the property for back taxes. You can either pay up or the property gets auctioned off on county court steps.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

          Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

          Lucky you... I just got the letter for renewal... it was $228. It's about that every year for both of our cars. (each)

          Also all doable online, which is nice.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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            @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

            @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

            @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

            Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

            Illinois is such a horrible state. Income taxes and high fees.

            The only tough parts about Texas is high property taxes and sales tax on almost everything. In Texas, you never truly own your house as your always paying taxes on it. Miss a few years and the county repsees the property for back taxes. You can either pay up or the property gets auctioned off on county court steps.

            That's how every state is. You don't think that there are states where you don't pay property tax for forever, do you?

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

              @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

              @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

              @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

              Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

              Illinois is such a horrible state. Income taxes and high fees.

              The only tough parts about Texas is high property taxes and sales tax on almost everything. In Texas, you never truly own your house as your always paying taxes on it. Miss a few years and the county repsees the property for back taxes. You can either pay up or the property gets auctioned off on county court steps.

              That's how every state is. You don't think that there are states where you don't pay property tax for forever, do you?

              Yeah, you are never free from property tax...

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              • coliverC
                coliver @NerdyDad
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                @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

                Illinois is such a horrible state. Income taxes and high fees.

                The only tough parts about Texas is high property taxes and sales tax on almost everything. In Texas, you never truly own your house as your always paying taxes on it. Miss a few years and the county repsees the property for back taxes. You can either pay up or the property gets auctioned off on county court steps.

                That's literally what happens in every state in the US.

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear
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                  When I lived in Indiana I was shocked when I registered my tags and the lady said "that'll be $1200". I laughed, she was serious. In Ohio you pay about $35 to $50 for a tag renewal.

                  In Indiana you pay around 1% of your cars value, and I had just bought a stupidly expensive new car (something I will NEVER repeat).

                  Prior to Indiana I lived in Florida and both my cars were leased, so I am really curious as to how different car tags are priced across other states.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @bigbear
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                    @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                    When I lived in Indiana I was shocked when I registered my tags and the lady said "that'll be $1200". I laughed, she was serious. In Ohio you pay about $35 to $50 for a tag renewal.

                    In Indiana you pay around 1% of your cars value, and I had just bought a stupidly expensive new car (something I will NEVER repeat).

                    Prior to Indiana I lived in Florida and both my cars were leased, so I am really curious as to how different car tags are priced across other states.

                    I just registered a beater truck I got for $1500. $188 for registration, plates, and sales tax. Inspection is another $21 on top of that.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @coliver
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                      @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      @jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                      Just renewed in Texas, was about $80. Not bad. And all online.

                      Illinois is such a horrible state. Income taxes and high fees.

                      The only tough parts about Texas is high property taxes and sales tax on almost everything. In Texas, you never truly own your house as your always paying taxes on it. Miss a few years and the county repsees the property for back taxes. You can either pay up or the property gets auctioned off on county court steps.

                      That's literally what happens in every state in the US.

                      Even non-statets like the Virgin Islands.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                        When I lived in Indiana I was shocked when I registered my tags and the lady said "that'll be $1200". I laughed, she was serious. In Ohio you pay about $35 to $50 for a tag renewal.

                        In Indiana you pay around 1% of your cars value, and I had just bought a stupidly expensive new car (something I will NEVER repeat).

                        Prior to Indiana I lived in Florida and both my cars were leased, so I am really curious as to how different car tags are priced across other states.

                        And the lesson here....?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:

                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                          When I lived in Indiana I was shocked when I registered my tags and the lady said "that'll be $1200". I laughed, she was serious. In Ohio you pay about $35 to $50 for a tag renewal.

                          In Indiana you pay around 1% of your cars value, and I had just bought a stupidly expensive new car (something I will NEVER repeat).

                          Prior to Indiana I lived in Florida and both my cars were leased, so I am really curious as to how different car tags are priced across other states.

                          I just registered a beater truck I got for $1500. $188 for registration, plates, and sales tax. Inspection is another $21 on top of that.

                          A bit much for a $1500 truck.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear
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                            Wow so we are just spoiled in Ohio. New tags you pay about $80 now, renewals about $35 every year. Regardless of the car.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @bigbear
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                              @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                              Wow so we are just spoiled in Ohio. New tags you pay about $80 now, renewals about $35 every year. Regardless of the car.

                              PA it’s like $25-30 for cars. SUVs might be like $35-40 and a full sized pickup is around $70-80 a year.

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                              • NerdyDadN
                                NerdyDad
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                                So this topic is now going to turn a little business-y.

                                Best way to get funding. What is it? Basically assume that everybody around me is poor and cannot pitch in. What are the different types of investing along with each pros/cons?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                  @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                  Wow so we are just spoiled in Ohio.

                                  Not something that you get to say very often.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                                    @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                    So this topic is now going to turn a little business-y.

                                    Best way to get funding. What is it? Basically assume that everybody around me is poor and cannot pitch in. What are the different types of investing along with each pros/cons?

                                    Self Funding: Most dangerous, best returns.
                                    Bank Loans: Very hard to get, lowers your returns.
                                    Angels: Good luck
                                    VCs: They own you and control everything. Your risk is low but your chance of success is lowered dramatically.

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                      @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                      Wow so we are just spoiled in Ohio.

                                      Not something that you get to say very often.

                                      LMAO, oh oh Ohio... I dont know how I ended up back here...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                        Wow so we are just spoiled in Ohio.

                                        Not something that you get to say very often.

                                        LMAO, oh oh Ohio... I dont know how I ended up back here...

                                        I sold my house there this week. I'm free!

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                                        • bigbearB
                                          bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          @bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                          Wow so we are just spoiled in Ohio.

                                          Not something that you get to say very often.

                                          LMAO, oh oh Ohio... I dont know how I ended up back here...

                                          I sold my house there this week. I'm free!

                                          I want to downvote this, this is the heart of it all! But yeah congrats lol.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @NerdyDad
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                                            @nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:

                                            So this topic is now going to turn a little business-y.

                                            Best way to get funding. What is it? Basically assume that everybody around me is poor and cannot pitch in. What are the different types of investing along with each pros/cons?

                                            There are a few ways to go here. We have financed build out rounds the same way we financed our original WISP startup. Get equipment for 100 subs, marketing and overhead covered for 6 months. At startup apply for an SBA loan so it will become available at the 6 month mark, that will carry you to 18 months.

                                            Otherwise I would boot strap it if you plan to start small and be small for a long time.

                                            Once you have 100 subs I know lots of people that would get behind a first series round to fund a build out.

                                            It comes down to, do you have great credit? Do you have a truly great market with 500 sub potential?

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