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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @Dashrender
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      @dashrender It won't, it's pretty much the same as the network shares.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @FATeknollogee
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        @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

        @dashrender It won't, it's pretty much the same as the network shares.

        Right, so why change? In fact, IMO it just makes things harder. Now you're dealing with WebDAV shares instead of SMB shares (when they work, they work nearly the same, but when they don't, they suck!) or a sync client, and well - let's just say I avoid sync clients like the plague.

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
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          @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

          @bnrstnr said in Scanning PDF's:

          I have this same issue, you'd be amazed at the amount of personal stuff gets left in the scan folder for all to see.

          Our MFP has a scan to email option, I've been considering disabling the scan to folder option and adding all of our addresses into the default address book.

          I think the scan to email option would be worse?

          Side rant: And don't get me started on printing & why people think they need to print everything...

          Its even worse in a school environment. Instead of instructors sending the students the electronic documents they end up printing massive amount of PowerPoint slides. And then go around complaining why we are suddenly out of toner, paper or staples.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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            @black3dynamite said in Scanning PDF's:

            @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

            @bnrstnr said in Scanning PDF's:

            I have this same issue, you'd be amazed at the amount of personal stuff gets left in the scan folder for all to see.

            Our MFP has a scan to email option, I've been considering disabling the scan to folder option and adding all of our addresses into the default address book.

            I think the scan to email option would be worse?

            Side rant: And don't get me started on printing & why people think they need to print everything...

            Its even worse in a school environment. Instead of instructors sending the students the electronic documents they end up printing massive amount of PowerPoint slides. And then go around complaining why we are suddenly out of toner, paper or staples.

            This is why I prefer schools to have smaller budgets. If teachers are allowed to flaunt wasting money like that, they deserve to have budgets cut till they get a clue or start to care.

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            • DanpD
              Danp
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              In the past, I've used Paperport to scan and manage PDFs.

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              • jmooreJ
                jmoore
                last edited by

                Others had good suggestions but I have used OneNote for small usage and Docubase for large usage.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @jmoore
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                  @jmoore said in Scanning PDF's:

                  Others had good suggestions but I have used OneNote for small usage and Docubase for large usage.

                  How did you use OneNote?

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
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                    @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

                    You have multiple network scanners & you've created file shares so folks can scan & retrieve those files when they get back to their desks.

                    Looking for some better ideas or how to catalog the pdf's, make them searchable or just a better system altogether.

                    Ideas, critique's...all are welcome!

                    Not using SMB v1 I hope...

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @Obsolesce
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                      @tim_g I should probably check on that.
                      A lot of times, these big scanners are finicky...I've had cases where they'll work with a 2008R2 file share but not 2012R2 or Win 7.
                      You have to wait for them to update their FW.

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                      • Mike DavisM
                        Mike Davis
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                        I set up a VM running OmniPage with a watched folders job. The users pick the scan template on the copier that says "ocr-pdf" or "ocr-word". From there the copier scans the job to a "ocr-pdf-inbox" folder that Omnipage is watching. It runs through an automated OCR and drops the folder in the \server\scans folder that users have mapped as a drive. They get back to their desk and the scan is waiting for them in what ever format they picked at the copier.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          I had a script at the last place that would empty the "scans" folder every 24 hours.

                          People leaving all kinds of shit there I kid you not, before I wrote the script there was close to 1TB of PDFs in the share... no one would clean up their stuff.

                          It was insane. .

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @Mike Davis
                            last edited by

                            @mike-davis said in Scanning PDF's:

                            I set up a VM running OmniPage with a watched folders job. The users pick the scan template on the copier that says "ocr-pdf" or "ocr-word". From there the copier scans the job to a "ocr-pdf-inbox" folder that Omnipage is watching. It runs through an automated OCR and drops the folder in the \server\scans folder that users have mapped as a drive. They get back to their desk and the scan is waiting for them in what ever format they picked at the copier.

                            Sounds interesting...I might have to hit you up for more details

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @Mike Davis
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                              @mike-davis Which flavor of OmniPage are you running?

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis
                                last edited by Mike Davis

                                @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

                                Which flavor of OmniPage are you running?

                                Currently Nuance PowerPDF advanced.

                                Edit: Nuance OmniPage 18 is the program that has the Agent. I'm not sure which they are currently selling. I've had this in place a long time.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @Mike Davis
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                                  @mike-davis

                                  1. Is the \server\scans folder a common folder for all users or does it contain sub-folders for each user?

                                  2. Who deletes (aka cleans) the folder or how do you make sure it stays clean & not just full of junk?

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                                  • Mike DavisM
                                    Mike Davis @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

                                    @mike-davis

                                    1. Is the \server\scans folder a common folder for all users or does it contain sub-folders for each user?

                                    2. Who deletes (aka cleans) the folder or how do you make sure it stays clean & not just full of junk?

                                    1. yes, the scans folder is a common folder for all domain users. I suppose you could create an individual folder for each user. I did create a different folder for the accounting and HR group, but didn't get down to individual users. I always create a user on the network called "scanner" and give the scanner user access to the folder where the scans land. Then if the copier guy needs the password, he gets the scanner service account username and password, which doesn't have access to any other shares on the network.

                                    2. Usually IT purges it once in a while, but I think I'm going to have to steal @DustinB3403 's idea and just schedule a job for that task.

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                                    • Mike DavisM
                                      Mike Davis
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                                      This should go in the I can't even file, but the local copier guys have asked for the domain admin password when attempting to set up stuff like scan to desktop.... That's another reason to have a dedicated scanner service account with a password that doesn't change.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @Mike Davis
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                                        @mike-davis said in Scanning PDF's:

                                        @fateknollogee said in Scanning PDF's:

                                        Which flavor of OmniPage are you running?

                                        Currently Nuance PowerPDF advanced.

                                        Edit: Nuance OmniPage 18 is the program that has the Agent. I'm not sure which they are currently selling. I've had this in place a long time.

                                        PowerPDF Advanced says it will "Automate PDF creation jobs using a watched folder."
                                        https://www.nuance.com/print-capture-and-pdf-solutions/pdf-and-document-conversion/power-pdf-converter.html
                                        Is this what you are referring to in your prev post?

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                                        • Mike DavisM
                                          Mike Davis @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @fateknollogee I think they are still selling their OmniPage line. https://www.nuance.com/print-capture-and-pdf-solutions/optical-character-recognition/omnipage.html
                                          I'm not sure what the difference is between that and the PowerPDF line.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            If you do run NextCloud or something on *nix, systemd has a path unit that can watch a directory and run whatever you tell it to when it sees a change. You could just script a move to a directory based on file name or whatever criteria you wanted.

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