Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?
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@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
An I right in assuming even the new cpu enabled raid on this chip/mobo is worthless?
Correct, mobo RAID or chipset RAID have become standard codes for FakeRAID.
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@travisdh1 said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@mike-davis said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
Seems like drives and RAID controller are missing.
yes
i have the drives except for .m2
Any recommendations for controller? An I right in assuming even the new cpu enabled raid on this chip/mobo is worthless?It's most likely fakeRAID, which is less than worthless, yes. I like LSI cards (It's the manufacturer Dell re-brands for their PERC cards.)
I prefer Adaptec, no lying about RAID 10 and no intentional crippling.
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@scottalanmiller said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
I prefer Adaptec, no lying about RAID 10 and no intentional crippling.
Thanks Scott, which model?
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This one?
Adaptec 2244100-R 5805 8-Channel SATA/SAS 512MB PCI-Express LP RAID Controller with Cable Kit
https://www.amazon.com/Adaptec-2244100-R-8-Channel-PCI-Express-Controller/dp/B0015DVE5G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505281599&sr=8-1&keywords=Adaptec+RAID -
Change mainboard. It looks really cool, I would want it in my gaming PC, but for business or anything work related you do not want it. Asus support is horrible. Go with Supermicro.
The same thing with case. I had very similar model, and it didn't lineup with units on rack. It will take 6u space, half above and half below, and if you plan to add additional gear, you'll end up with gaps. Supermicro is my choice here again, you can get really nice cases with even triple redundant power supplies.
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@marcinozga said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
Change mainboard. It looks really cool, I would want it in my gaming PC, but for business or anything work related you do not want it. Asus support is horrible. Go with Supermicro.
The same thing with case. I had very similar model, and it didn't lineup with units on rack. It will take 6u space, half above and half below, and if you plan to add additional gear, you'll end up with gaps. Supermicro is my choice here again, you can get really nice cases with even triple redundant power supplies.
Thanks for the feedback.
I will look at supermicro again. I went to their site yesterday and couldn't determine if they have motherboards for this PC and generic cases, I must not have looked carefully enough.
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Look at their server mainboards and cases. They have single socket boards too.
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Only one, maybe two, PCIe slots for GPU. Remember even a single PCIe slot will be dramatically more (maybe 10x) the power you were expecting in your old design. And instead of being shared between five people, it is dedicated to one. This design doesn't match with your needs from your previous server based design.
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@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
This one?
Adaptec 2244100-R 5805 8-Channel SATA/SAS 512MB PCI-Express LP RAID Controller with Cable Kit
https://www.amazon.com/Adaptec-2244100-R-8-Channel-PCI-Express-Controller/dp/B0015DVE5G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505281599&sr=8-1&keywords=Adaptec+RAIDAwfully low end. You'd feel the performance lag.
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@marcinozga said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
Look at their server mainboards and cases. They have single socket boards too.
Sorry to be dumb, but, if looking at SM MB, is anything w socket 2066 compatible? If not, what spec do I filter by to determine compatibility? I cannot have a full depth server box because my rack is only two post. I believe I can go 24 to 25 inches but that's it. ideally I would go 3U, but I assume 4U will give me better room for quiet fans/cooling etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
This one?
Adaptec 2244100-R 5805 8-Channel SATA/SAS 512MB PCI-Express LP RAID Controller with Cable Kit
https://www.amazon.com/Adaptec-2244100-R-8-Channel-PCI-Express-Controller/dp/B0015DVE5G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505281599&sr=8-1&keywords=Adaptec+RAIDAwfully low end. You'd feel the performance lag.
Going up from that gets me to about 1/3 cost of entire rig for card, ie $500-1k for card. Are ebay ones worthy? Do you know models to look for? Thanks
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@mike-davis said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
At first glance I think you would be better suited with a i7 desktop for photoshop and a separate server.
There's no server workload portion. Just local processing of local data.
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@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
I cannot have a full depth server box because my rack is only two post.
You should not have this in a rack, this goes at your desk. Your keyboard, mouse and monitor cables don't like being run through walls. This is a desktop, not a server.
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@scottalanmiller said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
Only one, maybe two, PCIe slots for GPU. Remember even a single PCIe slot will be dramatically more (maybe 10x) the power you were expecting in your old design. And instead of being shared between five people, it is dedicated to one. This design doesn't match with your needs from your previous server based design.
I can well imagine meeting more than one – two slots: GPU, 10 GBE, additional 1 GBE, etc. etc. . don't I want a board with expansion room?
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@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@scottalanmiller said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
I prefer Adaptec, no lying about RAID 10 and no intentional crippling.
Thanks Scott, which model?
The more RAM cache the better. But it depends on more factors, like what RAID and drives are chosen. It's all one holistic decision.
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@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@marcinozga said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
Look at their server mainboards and cases. They have single socket boards too.
Sorry to be dumb, but, if looking at SM MB, is anything w socket 2066 compatible? If not, what spec do I filter by to determine compatibility?
https://www.supermicro.com/support/faqs/faq.cfm?faq=26087
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C420/X11SRA-RF.cfm
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/#2066 -
@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
- CPU: i9 or i7? Assuming i7 which? Processor power vs energy use @ 24/7 balance
Any modern one will outperform what you were planning to use previously, so no big deal there. i7 is plenty, an AMD Ryzen would be good too. Loads of decent options.
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@scottalanmiller said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
I cannot have a full depth server box because my rack is only two post.
You should not have this in a rack, this goes at your desk. Your keyboard, mouse and monitor cables don't like being run through walls. This is a desktop, not a server.
It has to be in the rack either mounted or on a shelf I greatly prefer mounted. The location is not far from the desk but it cannot be on the desk. The cables work fine.
Thanks
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@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
It has to be in the rack either mounted or on a shelf I greatly prefer mounted. The location is not far from the desk but it cannot be on the desk. The cables work fine.
Under a desk is normal. How close is the rack? Normally you want no more than three or four feet.
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@marcinozga said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@ccclapp said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
@marcinozga said in Photoshop/VM Lab: Workstation Spec?:
Look at their server mainboards and cases. They have single socket boards too.
Sorry to be dumb, but, if looking at SM MB, is anything w socket 2066 compatible? If not, what spec do I filter by to determine compatibility?
https://www.supermicro.com/support/faqs/faq.cfm?faq=26087
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C420/X11SRA-RF.cfm
https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/#2066Thanks for the links!
