CradlePoint 1200B Small business router
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@technobabble said:
The office has a 2 networked printers and they want to be able to print to them from the server at the datacenter.
According to the datacenter I need a Firewall and VPN. I presumed the client only said they were connected to Comcast. I am not getting good information from the "datacenter IT person".
The client never need VPN until now and I thought that the firewall in the router was enough.
What is the server at the data center? how is it connected to the local network now? a cloud print service might be a easier option if it's not really needed on the local network.
The server at the datacenter is where their line of business application is running. They are using RDP and/or RPD Apps to connect.
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@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
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@technobabble said:
There are a few people working outside of the office that need to print to the local office and of course those printers won't redirect to them since they are not local. She was told that a VPN would solve the probem.
Yes a site to site or a client to site VPN will make the remote users a part of the network.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
There are a few people working outside of the office that need to print to the local office and of course those printers won't redirect to them since they are not local. She was told that a VPN would solve the probem.
Yes a site to site or a client to site VPN will make the remote users a part of the network.
Thanks. Sad to say I have no experience in VPN. I have read about it and followed threads here and on that other board.
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@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
I'm not implying anything at all. I think that your original question was if a firewall was needed and all I was answering was that yes, a firewall is always needed.
I've made no distinction between all in one or other devices.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
I'm not implying anything at all. I think that your original question was if a firewall was needed and all I was answering was that yes, a firewall is always needed.
I've made no distinction between all in one or other devices.
ah ha...now it is clear. One of my original question was if they needed a standalone firewall.
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I need to write better questions!
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@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
I'm not implying anything at all. I think that your original question was if a firewall was needed and all I was answering was that yes, a firewall is always needed.
I've made no distinction between all in one or other devices.
ah ha...now it is clear. One of my original question was if they needed a standalone firewall.
Usually the firewall in a routing/gateway device will be fine. a Software level firewall like windows firewall is not okay as your perimeter device however.
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The Ubiquiti EdgeRouter that I often recommend is router and firewall in one. I never recommend all in ones including wireless, though. It is so cheap to do it separate and it works so much better. You can do a firewall and access point combo for around $150 for serious enterprise gear. Not much call for getting below $150.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The Ubiquiti EdgeRouter that I often recommend is router and firewall in one. I never recommend all in ones including wireless, though. It is so cheap to do it separate and it works so much better. You can do a firewall and access point combo for around $150 for serious enterprise gear. Not much call for getting below $150.
I'll look into Ubiquiti's items. In the s in smb I find most businesses are still using the modem/router that comes from the ISP or a residential router.
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@technobabble said:
I'll look into Ubiquiti's items. In the s in smb I find most businesses are still using the modem/router that comes from the ISP or a residential router.
Now THAT is what falls below my "home line." I use a Ubiquiti firewall and separate access point at home. Prior to that I had a rack mount Netgear ProSecure UTM and Netgear Prosafe Wireless AP.
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@technobabble said:
I'll look into Ubiquiti's items. In the s in smb I find most businesses are still using the modem/router that comes from the ISP or a residential router.
Every single one of my clients has a separate router and AP. I have never recommended an all in one. This is for businesses as small as 4 users. For the last year the basic build has been the Ubiquiti ERL and Ubiquiti UAP.
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@JaredBusch said:
@technobabble said:
I'll look into Ubiquiti's items. In the s in smb I find most businesses are still using the modem/router that comes from the ISP or a residential router.
Every single one of my clients has a separate router and AP. I have never recommended an all in one. This is for businesses as small as 4 users. For the last year the basic build has been the Ubiquiti ERL and Ubiquiti UAP.
Same here. Even home I don't recommend all in one.
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@JaredBusch said:
@technobabble said:
I'll look into Ubiquiti's items. In the s in smb I find most businesses are still using the modem/router that comes from the ISP or a residential router.
Every single one of my clients has a separate router and AP. I have never recommended an all in one. This is for businesses as small as 4 users. For the last year the basic build has been the Ubiquiti ERL and Ubiquiti UAP.
Does the Lite version support Dual WAN for failover?
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@technobabble said:
Does the Lite version support Dual WAN for failover?
All versions are the same. Only difference is the number of ports, speed of CPU and amount of memory (and size of the chassis.) The Lite model is a three port so yes, it will support WAN failover and, in fact, has a built in wizard to set that up for you if you want.
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@scottalanmiller said:
All versions are the same. Only difference is the number of ports, speed of CPU and amount of memory (and size of the chassis.) The Lite model is a three port so yes, it will support WAN failover and, in fact, has a built in wizard to set that up for you if you want.
After you update the firmware to 1.5.0 it has that wizard.
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Yes hopefully you are updating the firmware before deploying a security device !
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Great answers to my questions, I really appreciate it.
Since the company has great faith with the techs at the datacenter, should I add a firewall and VPN or do I need to also replace the router.
There are only 5 users and soon the servers will be gone..
