Cell phones survey
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Think it also depends on what your going to use it for.
If its a mobile office then you might need a top range one. If its just call, text odd email and light browsing then a £60 phone might do, e.g. I had (until the little one broke her phone) I had a Doogee X5 pro from eBay and it did what I needed it to and smoothly.
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@fuznutz04 said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g I had a Windows phone once. It was OK, but I probably wouldn't go back.
I did too, it was awful.
When did you have one? What OS? version?
Irrelevant as the issues were the malware ecosystem that Microsoft built. That it was technically inferior was not the problem. That MS made it just bad, period, is the issue and no amount of old or version or fixes will correct that. Once you can't trust the vendor, you can't trust it.
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
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@nerdydad said in Cell phones survey:
back to iPhone. Wife would go back to iPhone kicking and screaming as she had problems with hers but loves her Note 4,
In the past two years I've used
Samsung S4 - horrible - needed to be rebooted all the time, laggy, etc
Lumia 520 - laggy but otherwise very usable, had the few apps I wanted (outlook email, Starbucks, and normal built in apps)
Lumia 640 - less laggy than 520, very usable, same apps as 520
Google Nexus 6P - Great in the beginning, but after 6 months or so it was noticeably slower. I probably had 20 apps or so on it, outside the factory apps. Decent battery life, 24+ hours with good amount of use. Though when taking a lot of picture, lots of FB/picture uploads/chatting - probably around 6 hours until dead.
iPhone 6s - close to the same size as the 520, so a lot smaller than the rest. Lag is rare, but definitely no were near zero. Pretty much any app out there you want, great battery life. I can get nearly 2 days with low to moderate use. Heavy internet/uploading/photo taking, close to 6 hours until dead. This phone came to me 6+ months used with a cracked screen (haven't replaced the screen and still works 99+% of the time).I've definitely had the least amount of issues with the iPhone compared to the rest. As much as I detest normal Apple users (not IT Apple users), smug bastards, I do have to admit after using this phone - yeah it's pretty damned awesome.
Both the iPhone and the Nexus 6P suffered from not being able to change certain aspects like ring tones to my personal choices versus just the built in ones (though I haven't tried that hard with the iPhone, so maybe it can now too), but my old Android phones and Windows phones all allowed me to use any wav/MP3 file as a ring/notification sound. sucks to be stuck with the crap default options.
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I've moved two people off of iPhones to Google Pixel over the past two months. The first person would never go back to an iPhone after two months of usage. They really like it and it plugs into the Google ecosystem they had been using previously (which they hadn't been using to the full extent on iOS).
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@coliver said in Cell phones survey:
I've moved two people off of iPhones to Google Pixel over the past two months. The first person would never go back to an iPhone after two months of usage. They really like it and it plugs into the Google ecosystem they had been using previously (which they hadn't been using to the full extent on iOS).
So a friend of mine has some something similar, but it was the Galaxy Note series phones - they loved the stylus, removing parallax from photos and a few other features, but now a year later - not sure what they think?
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
Ohhh Kay - you're talking about the store.. OK I have to give you that one. MS didn't monitor it at all.. and it is down right horrible! But that doesn't make the OS a malware platform.
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@dashrender The MS store was really bad. I know android gets a bad rep but it's a tiny percentage of apps that are malware. And even then you have to do something stupid to be infected.
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
Ohhh Kay - you're talking about the store.. OK I have to give you that one. MS didn't monitor it at all.. and it is down right horrible! But that doesn't make the OS a malware platform.
That's an integral part of the experience. They didn't provide an alternative. So the store dictates the quality of the overall device.
The entire store was designed around delivering fake products (malware) to me. It was a platform designed for malware, and nothing BUT malware.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
That's the same thing as not liking Fords because people lock their children in them...
What kind of apps are you choosing to install that have malware?
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I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
My phone is for its functionality, if I wanted a malware platform I don't need to pay MS for it.
Then I hope you aren't using an iPhone! Horrible track record (if you bother to look).
You've obviously never tried the Windows phone. Their entire store system is nothing BUT malware.
That's the same thing as not liking Fords because people lock their children in them...
What kind of apps are you choosing to install that have malware?
Any. It was ALL malware. It wasn't that they contained malware, they WERE malware. The store itself was essentially malware. Which, being part of the phone, made the phone malware. From what I could tell, the sole purpose of the phone was to host the store and the store's only function was to present fake apps as looking like real ones from actual phone platforms. There were no apps that you would want to use, as far as I could ever tell, but the store was loaded with ones with the exact name of the app, names of the vendor and icons so that, since MS controlled the store, there was no validation for phone users to determine if the app they wanted existed or if there were just twenty malware items called that.
It's nothing like "some people lock kids in the car", I could find no safe, legitimate use for the phone.
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@momurda said in Cell phones survey:
I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
Exactly. Any app you wanted was in there a dozen times or more. Chances are, none of them were actually the app. But there was no way to know.
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i also have to consider that most of my close friends and family are in the iOS ecosystem. we facetime, and use imessage all the time. my wife just reminded me of that this evening.
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@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@momurda said in Cell phones survey:
I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
Exactly. Any app you wanted was in there a dozen times or more. Chances are, none of them were actually the app. But there was no way to know.
I've not seen this issue, and can't find anything at all similar to it. I've been using Win10 Mobile on my Lumia 950xl since it's come out. My experience was nothing but good, in every aspect. I like the way everything is on it much more than Android and iOS, and I came from being an Android fanboy thinking Win10 Mobile had no chance of comparing.
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
You'll have to show me some real examples that I can search for, on my phone, right now, so that what you are saying makes sense.
Otherwise, you're just making me think your being irrational about something that doesn't exist.
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I am rocking the Galaxy S8+. Love it.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@scottalanmiller said in Cell phones survey:
@momurda said in Cell phones survey:
I recommend the Lumia 635 with Win 10.
Just look here, i have about 15 different choices when i search for the Opera browser. The store is amazing. Dozens of vpn app choices in there too."In case you cant tell I am being sarcastic" ~lots of people
Exactly. Any app you wanted was in there a dozen times or more. Chances are, none of them were actually the app. But there was no way to know.
I've not seen this issue, and can't find anything at all similar to it. I've been using Win10 Mobile on my Lumia 950xl since it's come out. My experience was nothing but good, in every aspect. I like the way everything is on it much more than Android and iOS, and I came from being an Android fanboy thinking Win10 Mobile had no chance of comparing.
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
You'll have to show me some real examples that I can search for, on my phone, right now, so that what you are saying makes sense.
Otherwise, you're just making me think your being irrational about something that doesn't exist.
Google Chrome was an obvious one. Store came up with screen after screen of options that were all from "Google" and all were "Chrome". This was universally known as an issue at least when I had the phone, not sure how you missed it. It's been the constant complaint of the Windows Store ecosystem and continues on the desktop - their weird control issues mean that you can't identify the vendor. It's just "stuff their search turns up" and if it isn't the real deal, no way to know.
Maybe you are loaded with malware and don't know it. If you are using the Windows phone, it seems likely that you have fake copies of software or things you don't realize aren't the apps that people call by those names.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
I also cannot find any apps that "are" malware.
Well, do you see apps? There you go. The store was easily over 99% malware when I had it. Any search for anything would turn up loads of hits, not a single one was normally the "real" app, just fakes (fakes are malware by definition.) On the off chance that the actual app existed, it was rarely the top or obvious hit.
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Here is an example of the issue years after I smartly dumped the platform...
What they show with Avast, multiple apps with the name and at best one, if any, from the actual vendor, is what every app was like. Every app you could name was represented in the store, but essentially none of them were real. The platform had almost no actual apps, but the store was chock full of fake ones with the same names. The platform as famous for it and everyone was pretty convinced that to make it look like the platform had developers, Microsoft promoted this happening so that they could say that they had apps too - the alternative was an empty app store with nothing to show.
