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    • IRJI
      IRJ
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      I have been using Windows 10 for about 20 minutes now. At first glimpse, I like it.

      1. You can switch back to the Windows 8 start screen if you prefer it over the start button. I have gotten used to it so I switched back to the Metro UI. Metro UI is pretty much the same. It has some more useful tiles out of the box, though

      2014-10-01_16-19-05.png

      1. As of now I see no way to bring the charm bar back (which I actually like)

      2. It has a really cool shortcut link to the application manager kind of like an android phone. You can click the

      2014-10-01_16-15-59.png

      2014-10-01_16-16-57.png

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @thanksajdotcom
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        @ajstringham said:

        Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

        Can you elaborate?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said:

          @ajstringham said:

          Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

          Can you elaborate?

          yes please.
          And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @IRJ said:

            @ajstringham said:

            Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

            Can you elaborate?

            yes please.
            And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

            OS X has had multiple desktops for years. I'm glad Microsoft is add the feature in, and that they brought back the start MENU, and not a button that still goes to the metro interface.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

              UNIX had that at least back to 1998 (pre OSX era) as we were using them on Linux with KDE then. I believe that the predate that a bit too, but that was the first that they were extremely mainstream and that even our non-technical people were using them.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @thanksajdotcom
                last edited by

                @ajstringham said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @IRJ said:

                @ajstringham said:

                Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

                Can you elaborate?

                yes please.
                And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

                OS X has had multiple desktops for years. I'm glad Microsoft is add the feature in, and that they brought back the start MENU, and not a button that still goes to the metro interface.

                So how does Microsoft need to catch up?

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said:

                  @ajstringham said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @IRJ said:

                  @ajstringham said:

                  Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

                  Can you elaborate?

                  yes please.
                  And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

                  OS X has had multiple desktops for years. I'm glad Microsoft is add the feature in, and that they brought back the start MENU, and not a button that still goes to the metro interface.

                  So how does Microsoft need to catch up?

                  Microsoft has often not added in features other OSes have had, and have stuck to a certain path. Multiple virtual desktops is a huge step forward in my mind, because even though they're behind the curve, they are at least waking up.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @IRJ said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @IRJ said:

                    @ajstringham said:

                    Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

                    Can you elaborate?

                    yes please.
                    And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

                    OS X has had multiple desktops for years. I'm glad Microsoft is add the feature in, and that they brought back the start MENU, and not a button that still goes to the metro interface.

                    So how does Microsoft need to catch up?

                    Microsoft has often not added in features other OSes have had, and have stuck to a certain path. Multiple virtual desktops is a huge step forward in my mind, because even though they're behind the curve, they are at least waking up.

                    OK what other features are they missing?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said:

                      So how does Microsoft need to catch up?

                      How do you define an amount? As of Windows 8.1. it is running more than sixteen years behind in some pretty common features. But Windows 10 should fix some of that. But that is just one feature. They are different OSes. For sixteen years it has been a "feature they don't want to provide." Now that they have added it, it shows that it was really that they were just lagging.

                      What about native networked interface? I'm sure they don't want to do that, but if they do it in ten years, they will have lagged thirty years. It's completely subjective.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        OK what other features are they missing?

                        Native network is massive. Native multi-user is pretty massive. That's less a feature and more a license limitation, but still.

                        What about paravirtualization and containerization options?

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @ajstringham said:

                          @IRJ said:

                          @ajstringham said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @IRJ said:

                          @ajstringham said:

                          Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

                          Can you elaborate?

                          yes please.
                          And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

                          OS X has had multiple desktops for years. I'm glad Microsoft is add the feature in, and that they brought back the start MENU, and not a button that still goes to the metro interface.

                          So how does Microsoft need to catch up?

                          Microsoft has often not added in features other OSes have had, and have stuck to a certain path. Multiple virtual desktops is a huge step forward in my mind, because even though they're behind the curve, they are at least waking up.

                          OK what other features are they missing?

                          Off-hand, I'm drawing a blank. This was a big one I added on my first XP desktop with a 3rd party utility. That was back in 2006. My Ubuntu box had that, as had the OS for years, back in 2005.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Now that they have added it, it shows that it was really that they were just lagging.

                            I'm not sure I agree with that. There's a new captain at the helm. He might have simply changed the course.

                            What about native networked interface? I'm sure they don't want to do that, but if they do it in ten years, they will have lagged thirty years. It's completely subjective.

                            What is a native networked interface?

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                            • thanksajdotcomT
                              thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Now that they have added it, it shows that it was really that they were just lagging.

                              I'm not sure I agree with that. There's a new captain at the helm. He might have simply changed the course.

                              What about native networked interface? I'm sure they don't want to do that, but if they do it in ten years, they will have lagged thirty years. It's completely subjective.

                              What is a native networked interface?

                              It was a change that should have happened years ago.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
                                last edited by

                                @ajstringham said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @ajstringham said:

                                @IRJ said:

                                @ajstringham said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @IRJ said:

                                @ajstringham said:

                                Looking forward to Microsoft finally catching up to every other OS out there in many ways.

                                Can you elaborate?

                                yes please.
                                And additional desktops - does OS X have that?

                                OS X has had multiple desktops for years. I'm glad Microsoft is add the feature in, and that they brought back the start MENU, and not a button that still goes to the metro interface.

                                So how does Microsoft need to catch up?

                                Microsoft has often not added in features other OSes have had, and have stuck to a certain path. Multiple virtual desktops is a huge step forward in my mind, because even though they're behind the curve, they are at least waking up.

                                OK what other features are they missing?

                                Off-hand, I'm drawing a blank. This was a big one I added on my first XP desktop with a 3rd party utility. That was back in 2006. My Ubuntu box had that, as had the OS for years, back in 2005.

                                One 'feature' does not lagging make.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Now that they have added it, it shows that it was really that they were just lagging.

                                  I'm not sure I agree with that. There's a new captain at the helm. He might have simply changed the course.

                                  How is that not fixing an issue of lagging? You can call any lack of features that get added late as having "changed direction." Technically, catching up in any way is a change of direction - from lagging a lot to lagging less.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
                                    last edited by

                                    @ajstringham said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Now that they have added it, it shows that it was really that they were just lagging.

                                    I'm not sure I agree with that. There's a new captain at the helm. He might have simply changed the course.

                                    What about native networked interface? I'm sure they don't want to do that, but if they do it in ten years, they will have lagged thirty years. It's completely subjective.

                                    What is a native networked interface?

                                    It was a change that should have happened years ago.

                                    If Bill Gates didn't think so.. and Balmer after that.. why? just because you and some small percentage want/like/use it? Can't say I agree with you there.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      One 'feature' does not lagging make.

                                      Not but they have lagged in basically every feature since day one. Windows has always been in the position of catching up. This one feature was really glaring and lasted an incredibly long time in the queue. But what aspect of the Windows desktop has not been a lagged feature since the 90s?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        So what you're saying is that MS isn't innovating. OK I'll give you that.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          What about Active Directory and what that has done to advance manageability of users, workstations, and servers? I believe Active Directory in itself is a huge accomplishment in the Windows world.

                                          Sure Novell came first but from what I heard the it was harder to implement and did not have as many features.

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            Maybe this link from 1998 is just Microsoft Propaganda, but I dont know enough about Novell to say either way.

                                            http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms808915.aspx

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