What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
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My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
Who does? The State?
The teacher.
Under what authority does the teacher enter your home?
Probably that of the daycare.
A daycare alone doesn't have this authority (at least not in the USA). Now it could be a situation like William's where he choose to use a facility that requires your partake in this action. So that is what I was asking - in Japan, is it standard practice that parents agree to this when they sign their kids up for school, or is this a state law? What if you don't want this, are there places you can attend that don't require this?
Ah, that's not really what you asked originally. Thank you for clarifying.
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
Who does? The State?
Who's doing the entering - aka under what authority are they doing the entering?
So JB answer the first (the obvious) part by saying the teacher - but not not the implied ask of what gives them the right to do so?
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Accurate depection.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
This reason for my disparaging remarks is because this is the government using it's power to stick it's nose in your business.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
If this wasn't state run, I would completely ignore the cost, but it is.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
This reason for my disparaging remarks is because this is the government using it's power to stick it's nose in your business.
Totally agree.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
If this wasn't state run, I would completely ignore the cost, but it is.
Right, the issue is this being about a government agency leveraging social benefits to work around warrant needs.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
If this wasn't state run, I would completely ignore the cost, but it is.
Its just another way to keep tabs on people in low income environments basically, yes. most of the kids in the classes come from minorities and teen moms who need hand outs. if it was up to me they wouldnt come to my home at all... which they shouldn't but Im not going to rant about it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
Exactly. They are exerting control over you that they don't really have the authority to do so.
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@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
Well, in this specific case this is a wellfare system. William gets free daycare (free to him, paid for by the state). His choices are don't use the system, or pay money he likely doesn't have to use a daycare that doesn't require this.
Ignore the cost. This is a stipulation on the use of the good by the vendor, it was agreed to by the customer.
If this wasn't state run, I would completely ignore the cost, but it is.
Its just another way to keep tabs on people in low income environments basically, yes. most of the kids in the classes come from minorities and teen moms who need hand outs. if it was up to me they wouldnt come to my home at all... which they shouldn't but Im not going to rant about it.
Right, it's a way to keep tabs on minorities. That's the bottom line.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
Exactly. They are exerting control over you that they don't really have the authority to do so.
Well, they probably do. The debate would be whether it is ethical or not, not whether or not they can do it. States have a lot of power, thanks to our poor central federal system allowing individual states to do some pretty bad things with no national oversight.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
Exactly. They are exerting control over you that they don't really have the authority to do so.
Did you check the laws on that? How do you know they do not have this authority. You are injecting things that may or may not be true based on your personal bias.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wrcombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
Exactly. They are exerting control over you that they don't really have the authority to do so.
All because they are offering my son a place to go while im at work or school - Which is another stipulation- you have to be either at work or in college ( or high school for some parents) and they continually check on that..
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My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
Exactly. They are exerting control over you that they don't really have the authority to do so.
All because they are offering my son a place to go while im at work or school - Which is another stipulation- you have to be either at work or in college ( or high school for some parents) and they continually check on that..
That's a bit different.
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My sons Daycare teachers just arrived for a home visit! this should be fun
Sounds weird, why would a daycare teacher show up at your residence. Is this like CPS or something?
Yearly home visits are standard practice in Japan.
And Omaha Ne ask well. Its one of their stipulations to my son being enrolled at their school.
Holy crap - what school is that?
Educare Kellom. Its state funded- thats their authority, they told me if they dont he gets kicked out.
Sure, you send your kid there, they get those choices. You always have the choice of sending your kid to another daycare.
I'm sure price is a factor in this decision.
Sadly this is very true - so it's what I consider another non constitutional form of search.
I don't follow. You are "buying" a service, as part of that payment they require that you get a visit from a teacher on a yearly basis. It was agreed to by the customer. Not sure I see any issues with this as it is an agreement between two parties.
That's not quite true in this case. This is the government providing a service and adding stipulations that aren't necessarily appropriate for the government to be adding. It's a bit of a grey area. Can the government forcibly search your home? No. Can they do it if you use their daycare? What if you use their roads, or water?
Exactly. They are exerting control over you that they don't really have the authority to do so.
All because they are offering my son a place to go while im at work or school - Which is another stipulation- you have to be either at work or in college ( or high school for some parents) and they continually check on that..
That's a bit different.
just a bit..
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@wrcombs If you are receiving a subsidy from the state, there are bound to be requirements to receive the subsidy. This is one such requirement.
You are receiving low cost daycare, a requirement to that is an annual household checkup.
I get it, and don't disagree with there being stipulations on it. It makes sense to me, to ensure that the child is in a safe home etc.
Of course, I'm sure that these checkups then could evolve into CPS visits etc. But if it's not CPS, but a daycare provider. . . I guess I don't see why; why bother?
Why make the daycare provider (teacher) perform the check-in. Why wouldn't a CPS rep do this? I guess because you know the teacher, and not a random stranger from CPS. . .
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In this daycare, since it is publicly funded, I wonder if the daycare provider is an arm to CPS. . . Maybe that is why the teacher is performing the check-in.
