Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think
-
@coliver big apple fan, but post Steve jobs so many things seem to have suffered. Still the best phone hardware, but not always for OS.
My last MacBook was solid for a couple years and then a disaster possibly because if a video card recall. I doubt I'll ever spend $5500 again in a laptop though.
-
@john-nicholson said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
Mac OS X 2010 - current - Network and Unix administrators who hated putty, and wanted something as stable as their server to run as their desktop OS.
For me MacOS was a jumping off point to learn Linux and CLI stuff and is the gateway for me to jump into a full on Ubuntu based desktop OS for my day to day work, though with the Cinnamon UI.
-
@john-nicholson said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@coliver said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@john-nicholson I find it funny but Linux on the workstation has been much more stable then any of our OSX laptops.
When your best app option is TuxRacer, this doesn't surprise me. I used Linux on the desktop in college because it limited hugely what I could do and that provided more stability than anything.
My OS X laptop hasn't been rebooted in 2 months so I'm not sure what your doing wrong with your mac's but stop doing it!
@Scott - OpenBSD are the guys who like singing funny songs about CARP. For this reason, I like them for firewalls, and if you want Linux on the desktop hate systemD and don't like Debian it's an option?
Just generic unprivileged users. App crashes and system crashes are fairly common.
-
@coliver Sounds like you have bad apps?
The only issue I have is Outlook crashes one a day, Skype 4 Buisness is unusable (but that's true on Windows) and Onedrive is a giant turd.
-
@john-nicholson said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
Linux on Desktop - For masochists who somehow lack my burning hatred for SystemD.
The only thing I don't like about SystemD is the logging. But parallel execution is so much nicer than alphabetized init scripts.
I use Linux on the desktop but I don't have a lot of app requirements. 90% of what I'm doing is web based and the other 10% is done in Git, Atom, or sometimes other utilities like Inkscape.
-
@john-nicholson said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@coliver Sounds like you have bad apps?
The only issue I have is Outlook crashes one a day, Skype 4 Buisness is unusable (but that's true on Windows) and Onedrive is a giant turd.
It's reported that the new OneDrive client is much better. Have you tried it?
-
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
-
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
-
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
Hey, quit talking about me! I don't need every one... Only all the obscure ones you've never heard of, ha ha.
-
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
-
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
Aside form the occasional obscure thing, I'm satisfied with Gimp, Inkscape and whatever flavor of code editor I happen to be into at the time.
-
@dafyre said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
Aside form the occasional obscure thing, I'm satisfied with Gimp, Inkscape and whatever flavor of code editor I happen to be into at the time.
@dominica does graphic design and works on Linux.
-
@dafyre said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
Aside form the occasional obscure thing, I'm satisfied with Gimp, Inkscape and whatever flavor of code editor I happen to be into at the time.
I use Gimp and inkscape also, usually defaulting to inkscape. I am a fledgling graphic designer, not that I would ever call myself that, I just sometimes need to edit images for use on websites, or make simple logos.
-
Usually what the argument against Opensource comes down to is they don't want to have to learn new ways of doing things. It is change and people don't like that unless someone holds there hand. As a line from a favorite song says "Do you really need a genius to teach you Garage Band?"
-
@penguinwrangler Change happens regardless of what you do. Look at windows 7 vs. windows 10. You have to learn whether you want to or not. We just decide what you're going to learn.
-
@wirestyle22 said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler Change happens regardless of what you do. Look at windows 7 vs. windows 10. You have to learn whether you want to or not. We just decide what you're going to learn.
There were a few times that open source won big when it changed less than closed source did. Windows 8 was a huge leap, but those staying on LXDE saw very little change from Windows Vista and 7. When MS Office 2007 released, OpenOffice got tons of customers because it kept Office 2003 style interfaces that were better known to users.
-
@coliver said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@john-nicholson said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@coliver said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@john-nicholson I find it funny but Linux on the workstation has been much more stable then any of our OSX laptops.
When your best app option is TuxRacer, this doesn't surprise me. I used Linux on the desktop in college because it limited hugely what I could do and that provided more stability than anything.
My OS X laptop hasn't been rebooted in 2 months so I'm not sure what your doing wrong with your mac's but stop doing it!
@Scott - OpenBSD are the guys who like singing funny songs about CARP. For this reason, I like them for firewalls, and if you want Linux on the desktop hate systemD and don't like Debian it's an option?
Just generic unprivileged users. App crashes and system crashes are fairly common.
In last 9 years I had 2 kernel panic crashes on Macs. Both caused by 3rd party apps (Hands off and Teamviewer). My apps don't crash, at least I don't recall any, and os never crashed, since I started using Macs. Your hardware might be messed up, but that's what Apple Care and local Apple stores are for.
-
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
Has Gimp managed to get CMYK support yet? Ask any serious designer that needs to produce something for press printing to do it in Gimp and they'll happily hang you by the nuts.
-
@marcinozga said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
Has Gimp managed to get CMYK support yet? Ask any serious designer that needs to produce something for press printing to do it in Gimp and they'll happily hang you by the nuts.
Yes it has.
http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate-plus/index.html
-
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@marcinozga said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@scottalanmiller said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@stacksofplates said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
@penguinwrangler said in Why Free Open Source Software Is Cheaper Than You Think:
I have no problems finding apps for my Linux Desktop. What are the apps that everyone can't find for Linux?
Ya idk. I've never had issues either. But then again I'm not a pretend graphic designer who "needs" every Adobe product ever created.
I'm always amazed by the weird people and situations where people claim that they need an Adobe suite. Both that they think they need any app like that, and that they claim that only Adobe works.
Has Gimp managed to get CMYK support yet? Ask any serious designer that needs to produce something for press printing to do it in Gimp and they'll happily hang you by the nuts.
Yes it has.
http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate-plus/index.html
With limitations.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GIMP/CMYK_support
That's still far off from professional use.
