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    • coliverC
      coliver
      last edited by

      I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

        I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

        Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by DustinB3403

          @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

          @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

          I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

          Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

          These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

          Now this doesn't mean don't learn Vi (I try and learn myself) I just don't like the interface.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

            @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

            @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

            I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

            Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

            These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

            That's true... although it happened to me when working in an SMB (tiny 100-200 person SMB) with some legacy systems.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

              @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

              @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

              I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

              Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

              These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

              Not as crazy as you might think. All it takes is certain storage devices failing.

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad
                last edited by

                For those like me who doesn't know vi very well, a reference sheet.

                http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html

                If you do a quick Google search, you will find a number of reference cards and sheets for vi from colleges and universities.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  I definitely prefer nano, but knowing vi (at least to a base degree like i do) is pretty much necessary as you are likely to eventually run into a situation where you don't have access to nano. Common discussion around here though

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                  • PenguinWranglerP
                    PenguinWrangler
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                    My daughter's first laptop that she got here recently was Korora 25. I then pointed her to this site https://vim-adventures.com/ and she learned VIM as a game. Her and I are going through a Python class together.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @PenguinWrangler
                      last edited by

                      @penguinwrangler said in Quitting Vi:

                      My daughter's first laptop that she got here recently was Korora 25. I then pointed her to this site https://vim-adventures.com/ and she learned VIM as a game. Her and I are going through a Python class together.

                      What a great idea

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @PenguinWrangler
                        last edited by

                        @penguinwrangler said in Quitting Vi:

                        My daughter's first laptop that she got here recently was Korora 25. I then pointed her to this site https://vim-adventures.com/ and she learned VIM as a game. Her and I are going through a Python class together.

                        If you don't mind me asking, how old is your daughter? My 7-year-old got a NextBook with Windows 10 for christmas and I'm considering trying at least Fedora on it for her instead.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                          vi
                          up/down/left/right
                          ZZ
                          q!

                          If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @tim_g said in Quitting Vi:

                            Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                            vi
                            up/down/left/right
                            ZZ
                            q!

                            If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

                            ZZ is a new one for me I just use :wq.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                              @tim_g said in Quitting Vi:

                              Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                              vi
                              up/down/left/right
                              ZZ
                              q!

                              If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

                              ZZ is a new one for me I just use :wq.

                              Same

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                              • momurdaM
                                momurda
                                last edited by

                                Dont forget about i. I always do.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @tim_g said in Quitting Vi:

                                  Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                                  vi
                                  up/down/left/right
                                  ZZ
                                  q!

                                  If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

                                  You should add / to your list.

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                                  • RamblingBipedR
                                    RamblingBiped @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

                                    @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                                    I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

                                    Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

                                    These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

                                    Now this doesn't mean don't learn Vi (I try and learn myself) I just don't like the interface.

                                    We have over 1000 Linux servers and Vi is the only option on the greater majority (75%+). None of our QA, Stage, or Production systems come with anything else.

                                    I like and use Vim, and go with Vi if that's all I've got. Here's a great book for anyone looking to become a Vim power user: Practical Vim (https://pragprog.com/book/dnvim2/practical-vim-second-edition)

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                                    • RamblingBipedR
                                      RamblingBiped
                                      last edited by

                                      Also, installing Vim and typing 'vimtutor' at any terminal will launch an interactive beginner's tutorial on Vim.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        i'm going to drown in linux-related books

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @RamblingBiped
                                          last edited by

                                          @ramblingbiped said in Quitting Vi:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

                                          @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                                          I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

                                          Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

                                          These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

                                          Now this doesn't mean don't learn Vi (I try and learn myself) I just don't like the interface.

                                          We have over 1000 Linux servers and Vi is the only option on the greater majority (75%+). None of our QA, Stage, or Production systems come with anything else.

                                          I like and use Vim, and go with Vi if that's all I've got. Here's a great book for anyone looking to become a Vim power user: Practical Vim (https://pragprog.com/book/dnvim2/practical-vim-second-edition)

                                          At that point, why do you even need to touch any individual server rather than using your management platform of choice (salt, tower, etc.)

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                                          • RamblingBipedR
                                            RamblingBiped @travisdh1
                                            last edited by

                                            @travisdh1 said in Quitting Vi:

                                            @ramblingbiped said in Quitting Vi:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

                                            @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                                            I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

                                            Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

                                            These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

                                            Now this doesn't mean don't learn Vi (I try and learn myself) I just don't like the interface.

                                            We have over 1000 Linux servers and Vi is the only option on the greater majority (75%+). None of our QA, Stage, or Production systems come with anything else.

                                            I like and use Vim, and go with Vi if that's all I've got. Here's a great book for anyone looking to become a Vim power user: Practical Vim (https://pragprog.com/book/dnvim2/practical-vim-second-edition)

                                            At that point, why do you even need to touch any individual server rather than using your management platform of choice (salt, tower, etc.)

                                            We don't normally unless we have to investigate any issues that might arise. And even then we don't normally need a text editor.

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