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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.
But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes
That seems like a very bizarre tactic. Telling your current employer that you need fodder for your resume for your next employer. Shutter
It's the opposite when you think about it. Sure they know it's also for your resume, but you're a professional that's advanced your whole career. You are going to magically stop learning and gaining training when you work for your new employer? Thats an insult to everyone's intelligence.
Also think about this way, when there's skin in the game. You actually give a shit. If you have the opportunity to get certified for free. You are going to study your ass off and learn the material far better than training with no testing at the end of it.
It's true. There has to be a balance. Learning skills for your current job is key, but proof for your resume still matters.
So you're endorsing certs if you yourself don't pay for them?
I endorse certs, just when used for the right purpose.
Here's a few reasons I can think of:
When you work with a particular competency daily or at least a good portion of time.
When you're implementing a new product and working on the design from the ground up.
When you're working on advancing in the company. Many companies offer professional development programs where you can put goals and HR will help you towards those goals. (I've had the same program in SMB.) It's optional and most people don't use it. It's actually really good. You can map out where you want to be. For example the receptionist can put CEO on hers. They will help you go that path. Your boss is able to see the plan and you can basically justify training because of it. It helps everyone out and everyone wins.
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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.
really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!
I've rarely been at one that budgets so little. My last several jobs budgeted more like $10K - $20K, not including internal training.
Agreed, the budget barely pays for airfare and lodging in some places. Most training courses I've looked at have been in the $4000-$20,000 range.
At least it's enough to pay for SpiceWorld or MLCon.
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I'm all for education guys. I've definitely considered doing the Red Hat bootcamps and stuff in the past.
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@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.
But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes
That seems like a very bizarre tactic. Telling your current employer that you need fodder for your resume for your next employer. Shutter
It's the opposite when you think about it. Sure they know it's also for your resume, but you're a professional that's advanced your whole career. You are going to magically stop learning and gaining training when you work for your new employer? Thats an insult to everyone's intelligence.
Also think about this way, when there's skin in the game. You actually give a shit. If you have the opportunity to get certified for free. You are going to study your ass off and learn the material far better than training with no testing at the end of it.
It's true. There has to be a balance. Learning skills for your current job is key, but proof for your resume still matters.
So you're endorsing certs if you yourself don't pay for them?
I endorse certs, just when used for the right purpose.
Here's a few reasons I can think of:
When you work with a particular competency daily or at least a good portion of time.
When you're implementing a new product and working on the design from the ground up.
When you're working on advancing in the company. Many companies offer professional development programs where you can put goals and HR will help you towards those goals. (I've had the same program in SMB.) It's optional and most people don't use it. It's actually really good. You can map out where you want to be. For example the receptionist can put CEO on hers. They will help you go that path. Your boss is able to see the plan and you can basically justify training because of it. It helps everyone out and everyone wins.
When using them to guide your educational processes.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I'm all for education guys. I've definitely considered doing the Red Hat bootcamps and stuff in the past.
As an employer, those I find worthless. Bootcamps don't teach anything, they are often the worst value. That's to get someone certified, not to get them educated.
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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I'm all for education guys. I've definitely considered doing the Red Hat bootcamps and stuff in the past.
As an employer, those I find worthless. Bootcamps don't teach anything, they are often the worst value. That's to get someone certified, not to get them educated.
What do you recommend?
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I'm all for education guys. I've definitely considered doing the Red Hat bootcamps and stuff in the past.
As an employer, those I find worthless. Bootcamps don't teach anything, they are often the worst value. That's to get someone certified, not to get them educated.
What do you recommend?
Actually learning something
Bootcamps = "memorizing answers to get through a test as quickly as possible while learning as little as possible"
Do the exact opposite. Don't have a teacher if you can avoid it (I personally consider no cert that is tied to a class to be real, if it isn't about testing your knowledge, it's not legit IMHO) - get books, build a lab, learn the material and pass the test for the cert by knowing the material, not the answers. If your cert process wasn't for the purpose of learning, it's wasted.
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Updated a bit. Ignore formattting for now. I'm just focusing on information and then I will format it. I am having a little trouble explaining what I do at my current job because it's all over the place. Really, I'm doing desktop support but I also have to handle all of the appliances and servers as well, sporadically.
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Still only Server 2016? No Windows experience before that? It's not a problem if so, just making sure because that seems unlikely to have no Server 2012 R2.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Updated a bit. Ignore formattting for now. I'm just focusing on information and then I will format it. I am having a little trouble explaining what I do at my current job because it's all over the place. Really, I'm doing desktop support but I also have to handle all of the appliances and servers as well, sporadically.
Separate resumes could highlight different skills at each job. For example If going for a windows admin, you can highlight server OSes, AD, DNS, SCCM, WSUS, etc. Then maybe you have a Linux catered resume where you still mention windows proficiency, but you highlight more on Linux experience.
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@some_user said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Updated a bit. Ignore formattting for now. I'm just focusing on information and then I will format it. I am having a little trouble explaining what I do at my current job because it's all over the place. Really, I'm doing desktop support but I also have to handle all of the appliances and servers as well, sporadically.
Separate resumes could highlight different skills at each job. For example If going for a windows admin, you can highlight server OSes, AD, DNS, SCCM, WSUS, etc. Then maybe you have a Linux catered resume where you still mention windows proficiency, but you highlight more on Linux experience.
I ultimately want a more linux focused job, but yeah i understand your point
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@scottalanmiller So the reason everything looks like (and by looks like I mean is) filler, is because when I was a bit younger I paid for someone to create my resume and was using it as a point of reference. Seems like that was a bad idea.
Address your main questions:
- I have experience with Windows Server 2003-2016, which I will list each version in my next edit.
- The description of the IT Generalist role for Garden State Foot & Ankle is inaccurate. It's not high capacity in the sense that there are multiple nodes or a SAN or anything like that so I will change that.
- All devices was just a bad attempt at trying to explain that I was solely responsible. They have a 2008 R2 server that they use for x-rays that I built and maintain. This was in addition to typical desktop support, which in all honesty was a very rare occurrence.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller So the reason everything looks like (and by looks like I mean is) filler, is because when I was a bit younger I paid for someone to create my resume and was using it as a point of reference. Seems like that was a bad idea.
Generally is, mostly because resume writers mostly work in the "I've got nothing to fill it with garbage" space, partially because only you really know what you did at a job and partially because IT is unique and resume writing from other fields is basically useless in IT.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
- The description of the IT Generalist role for Garden State Foot & Ankle is inaccurate. It's not high capacity in the sense that there are multiple nodes or a SAN or anything like that so I will change that.
A SAN would not apply there with the description given.
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Specifying working with NFS would be like listing working with SMB/CIFS - that just seems weird and would be assumed if you're talking about 'nix at all, wouldn't it?
The 'nix based AD stuff though, that sounded good.
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@dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
Specifying working with NFS would be like listing working with SMB/CIFS - that just seems weird and would be assumed if you're talking about 'nix at all, wouldn't it?
The 'nix based AD stuff though, that sounded good.
Well, his main highlight at one job is mentioning that he built a file server. That's mentioning SMB, right? So, pretty similar.
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@dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
... that just seems weird and would be assumed if you're talking about 'nix at all, wouldn't it?
Why? I'd say 80% of UNIX people have never used NFS. Windows has had NFS for like 18 years, any used it? Building file servers isn't "that" common and unlike Windows which turns on SMB by default, UNIX doesn't even have the tools there by default in most cases.
