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    • EddieJenningsE
      EddieJennings @NerdyDad
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      @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      I've had Altigen before. It truly sucks.

      The system hasn't been terrible, but it's not flexible, and also we need to get away from hosting this PBX on premises. The hosted Altigen solutions I looked at a year ago when this project was first born were 2x to 3x more expensive than FreePBX hosted somewhere with a SIP provider.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        I have a thread around here some where a few months ago where I looked at the cost of ripping out my Mitel system and replacing it with FreePBX and Yeahlink phones - it was more cost effective for a few reasons.

        1. current phone system is serving all needs
        2. replacing current system vs updating already completely paid for system was $12K more.

        Even Scott agreed that because of the spent money already in place, that keeping my current system was likely the better move.

        These are some of the problems I see with keeping the on-premises Altigen system.

        1. Special licensing is required to used non-Altigen phones.
        2. Actually purchasing Altigen phones is becoming more and more difficult as I believe Altigen doesn't make them anymore.
        3. The actual hardware is an Altigen appliance that has aging hardware and is running 32-bit Windows 7 ultimate.

        I'll look for your thread though.

        Part of the difference is that he has fairly decent SIP trunk pricing already. So the RoI on switching only hardware is very low comparatively.

        Granted it is a shitty SIP trunk.

        What? Switching the SIP has nothing to do with the hardware? Unless a hardware/software purchase to support SIP is required. Now @EddieJennings did say he'd need a new license to support it, so that is definitely a factor.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @EddieJennings
          last edited by

          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          I've had Altigen before. It truly sucks.

          The system hasn't been terrible, but it's not flexible, and also we need to get away from hosting this PBX on premises. The hosted Altigen solutions I looked at a year ago when this project was first born were 2x to 3x more expensive than FreePBX hosted somewhere with a SIP provider.

          That's all? only 2-3x as much? Hosting a FreePBX costs like $6/month from Vultr. If hosting your Altigen only costs $12-18/month, that will take a lot of savings to climb over the cost of new phones for a FreePBX system.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            I have a thread around here some where a few months ago where I looked at the cost of ripping out my Mitel system and replacing it with FreePBX and Yeahlink phones - it was more cost effective for a few reasons.

            1. current phone system is serving all needs
            2. replacing current system vs updating already completely paid for system was $12K more.

            Even Scott agreed that because of the spent money already in place, that keeping my current system was likely the better move.

            These are some of the problems I see with keeping the on-premises Altigen system.

            1. Special licensing is required to used non-Altigen phones.
            2. Actually purchasing Altigen phones is becoming more and more difficult as I believe Altigen doesn't make them anymore.
            3. The actual hardware is an Altigen appliance that has aging hardware and is running 32-bit Windows 7 ultimate.

            I'll look for your thread though.

            Part of the difference is that he has fairly decent SIP trunk pricing already. So the RoI on switching only hardware is very low comparatively.

            Granted it is a shitty SIP trunk.

            What? Switching the SIP has nothing to do with the hardware? Unless a hardware/software purchase to support SIP is required. Now @EddieJennings did say he'd need a new license to support it, so that is definitely a factor.

            WTF are you talking about?

            My comment was directly pointing out that you already have a (shitty) SIP provider that gives a better cost than legacy POTS/PRI services, and because of that you have a very low ROI in switching hardware along with changing SIP providers.

            Of course changing hardware alone will never have any ROI. It is an expense. The ROI is based on the entire project.

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            • EddieJenningsE
              EddieJennings @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              I've had Altigen before. It truly sucks.

              The system hasn't been terrible, but it's not flexible, and also we need to get away from hosting this PBX on premises. The hosted Altigen solutions I looked at a year ago when this project was first born were 2x to 3x more expensive than FreePBX hosted somewhere with a SIP provider.

              That's all? only 2-3x as much? Hosting a FreePBX costs like $6/month from Vultr. If hosting your Altigen only costs $12-18/month, that will take a lot of savings to climb over the cost of new phones for a FreePBX system.

              From what I recall, Altigen was something like $20 / seat / month. Also we have a couple of hundred folks who are virtual extensions who basically only have a mailbox. There is a desire for these folks to start making calls, which for Altigen, would create another "seat."

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates
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                Experimenting with Tower's API for physical system installations.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Where has @creayt been hiding?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    I am pondering how companies like this can stay in business..
                    https://community.freepbx.org/t/error-message-when-installing-freepbx-on-centos-7-not-asterisk-user/42212

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                    • nadnerBN
                      nadnerB
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                      Trying to get my Quake style hotkey console to work on my new workstation.
                      Have the script, AutoHotkey but I've misplaced the setup destructions... 😞

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                        last edited by

                        @nadnerB said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Trying to get my Quake style hotkey console to work on my new workstation.
                        Have the script, AutoHotkey but I've misplaced the setup destructions... 😞

                        I love having a Quake console.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          It's an evening of fighting kids around here. Argh.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            It's an evening of fighting kids around here. Argh.

                            At 1 AM or are you in Texas and it's only midnight?

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              It's an evening of fighting kids around here. Argh.

                              Hunger Games playing out in your house?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                It's an evening of fighting kids around here. Argh.

                                At 1 AM or are you in Texas and it's only midnight?

                                Only midnight.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  @Tim_G

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Tim_G

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                                    LOL... so true!

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      It's an evening of fighting kids around here. Argh.

                                      Since I know you're trying Gnome 3, there is an extension for one.

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666
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                                        struggling this afternoon, could happily go for a nap right now 🙂

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @hobbit666
                                          last edited by

                                          @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          struggling this afternoon, could happily go for a nap right now 🙂

                                          You and me both... and I've only been up for 2 hours, lol.

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                                          • EddieJenningsE
                                            EddieJennings
                                            last edited by

                                            Finally, a post to which I can actually contribute:
                                            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2010654-hyper-v-ad-exchange-2016-hardware-overkill

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