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    Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

      @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

      Or you could use the Vultr firewall to block everything and use something like ZeroTier as the VPN component.

      Yup, any VPN will work, but ZT has a lot of cool flexibility.

      Sure, but brings long DNS issues, that Pertino had to solve with an AD client "fix."

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @Dashrender
        last edited by dafyre

        @Dashrender said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

        @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

        @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

        Or you could use the Vultr firewall to block everything and use something like ZeroTier as the VPN component.

        Yup, any VPN will work, but ZT has a lot of cool flexibility.

        Sure, but brings long DNS issues, that Pertino had to solve with an AD client "fix."

        If it's juts one server, you don't need the DNS bits. 😄 Just point everybody at the IP address.

        Edit: Or use a HOSTS file.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @dafyre
          last edited by

          @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

          @Dashrender said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

          @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

          @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

          Or you could use the Vultr firewall to block everything and use something like ZeroTier as the VPN component.

          Yup, any VPN will work, but ZT has a lot of cool flexibility.

          Sure, but brings long DNS issues, that Pertino had to solve with an AD client "fix."

          If it's juts one server, you don't need the DNS bits. 😄 Just point everybody at the IP address.

          Edit: Or use a HOSTS file.

          With AD, you'll need DNS to find specific record types. It's true that a hosts file might solve most of the issues though.

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear
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            In regards to ZT it might work, reminds me a lot of Himachi.

            Since the remote client wouldn't be part of the domain DNS wouldn't be a concern. It would be less exposure to risk than RDPGuard (which I am still gonna try first).

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              ZT is really nice.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                ZT is really nice.

                And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                  ZT is really nice.

                  And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                  On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                    @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                    ZT is really nice.

                    And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                    On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                    Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                      @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                      ZT is really nice.

                      And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                      On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                      Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

                      A hassle compared to the web front end? hard to believe, that thing is a huge hassle.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                        @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                        @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                        ZT is really nice.

                        And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                        On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                        Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

                        A hassle compared to the web front end? hard to believe, that thing is a huge hassle.

                        Really? I find it rather easy, although they keep changing stuff, lol.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                          @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                          @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                          ZT is really nice.

                          And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                          On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                          Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

                          A hassle compared to the web front end? hard to believe, that thing is a huge hassle.

                          Really? I find it rather easy, although they keep changing stuff, lol.

                          A good CLI would be dramatically easier.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                            ZT is really nice.

                            And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                            On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                            Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

                            A hassle compared to the web front end? hard to believe, that thing is a huge hassle.

                            Really? I find it rather easy, although they keep changing stuff, lol.

                            A good CLI would be dramatically easier.

                            +100000000!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                              ZT is really nice.

                              And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                              On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                              Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

                              A hassle compared to the web front end? hard to believe, that thing is a huge hassle.

                              Really? I find it rather easy, although they keep changing stuff, lol.

                              A good CLI would be dramatically easier.

                              +100000000!

                              If the build your own controller doesn't have one, might be easy to make.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @dafyre said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                ZT is really nice.

                                And did we mention free for up to 100 devices?

                                On the hosted version, and free unlimited if you host yourself (which isn't cost effective as the cost of a VM is as high as the cost of the service.)

                                Price went up to $29 / month if you're hitting > 100 devices (unless you are grandfathered in on their $4 / month payments). But their web interface and management tools make it worth it to me. Managing a controller is a bit of a hassle without their web front end.

                                A hassle compared to the web front end? hard to believe, that thing is a huge hassle.

                                Really? I find it rather easy, although they keep changing stuff, lol.

                                A good CLI would be dramatically easier.

                                +100000000!

                                If the build your own controller doesn't have one, might be easy to make.

                                I tried at one point. It was... more trouble than it's worth to me. I'd happily help somebody else though.

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                                • Mike DavisM
                                  Mike Davis @bigbear
                                  last edited by

                                  @bigbear said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                  This https://rdpguard.com/ @scottalanmiller posted looks like something worth trying out first. Also appears to be actively developed. Anyone else using it?

                                  I'm using rdpguard for a few clients. It seems to work well.

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear @Mike Davis
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mike-Davis it seems like RDP guard would be simpler than a VPN for the purpose of allowing users to access the system "wherever" they are, mobile devices etc included.

                                    However I wonder if Vultr ip ranges are scanned more frequently than Azure. I setup a couple honey potts and the attacks are 10 to 2 Vultr vs Amazon thus far.

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                                    • syko24S
                                      syko24 @bigbear
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                                      @bigbear - I use https://cyberarms.net as a fail2ban for Windows equivalent. They used to charge a fee for licensing but now it is completely free. Very quick and easy to setup.

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis @bigbear
                                        last edited by

                                        @bigbear said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                        However I wonder if Vultr ip ranges are scanned more frequently than Azure. I setup a couple honey potts and the attacks are 10 to 2 Vultr vs Amazon thus far.

                                        I would have to wonder if it's also a matter of a weakness detected in the range once so now the robots keep pounding that IP or range. I say this because I had a server that had a vulnerability that went unpatched. After I patched it, the bad guys kept pounding the site. I even went as far as to move the site to a new server with a new IP and they kept looking for the vulnerable URLs for more than a week with thousands of requests coming in each hour.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          can we get fail2ban added a tag on this thread?

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Best Practices - Securing your Windows Server 2016 VM on Vultr:

                                            can we get fail2ban added a tag on this thread?

                                            can we get any tags added to this topic....

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