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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @bigbear
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      @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

      So you couldn't disable the external interface or you'd lose internet access. (Per tech support).

      Nothing wrong with that, might be the way to go.

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      • bigbearB
        bigbear @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller only issue that came to mind was updates.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @bigbear
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          @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

          @scottalanmiller only issue that came to mind was updates.

          Yup, of course an issue. The solution there, and this isn't that great, is that you either use WSUS for Windows or a local mirror for Linux.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Which means another server and more of a pain.

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear @bigbear
              last edited by bigbear

              @bigbear well another issue, depending on where I store all my data. Do I launch a 3rd server with Vultr BLOB storage and share it to the terminal server, cause that would be another server without internet/updates/backup.

              Or do I directly attach a volume with BLOB storage to the terminal server? Which seems odd...

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                @scottalanmiller only issue that came to mind was updates.

                Yup, of course an issue. The solution there, and this isn't that great, is that you either use WSUS for Windows or a local mirror for Linux.

                Yup, so you can maybe see where my hope was to join a 2016 RDS to Azure AD the way Windows 10 clients do (also havent tested this lol).

                The cake is a lie!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                  @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                  @bigbear well another issue, depending on where I store all my data. Do I launch a 3rd server with Vultr BLOB storage and share it to the terminal server, cause that would be another server without internet/updates/backup.

                  Or do I directly attach a volume with BLOB storage to the terminal server? Which seems odd...

                  Do you need the BLOB storage and why would it feel odd to have it be direct but not weird to have it on a different server? What's the benefit to having an extra server for storage?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                    @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                    @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                    @scottalanmiller only issue that came to mind was updates.

                    Yup, of course an issue. The solution there, and this isn't that great, is that you either use WSUS for Windows or a local mirror for Linux.

                    Yup, so you can maybe see where my hope was to join a 2016 RDS to Azure AD the way Windows 10 clients do (also havent tested this lol).

                    The cake is a lie!

                    Oh it's a great idea. RDS just isn't ready for that yet.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                      Yup, so you can maybe see where my hope was to join a 2016 RDS to Azure AD the way Windows 10 clients do (also havent tested this lol).

                      Windows 10 works, we use it.

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                        @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                        @bigbear well another issue, depending on where I store all my data. Do I launch a 3rd server with Vultr BLOB storage and share it to the terminal server, cause that would be another server without internet/updates/backup.

                        Or do I directly attach a volume with BLOB storage to the terminal server? Which seems odd...

                        Do you need the BLOB storage and why would it feel odd to have it be direct but not weird to have it on a different server? What's the benefit to having an extra server for storage?

                        I have a few TB of data so I assumed BLOB storage was the way to go. If I had less data I suppose it wouldnt be necessary. Looks like its only available from VULTR in NY/NJC data centers.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                          @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                          Looks like its only available from VULTR in NY/NJC data centers.

                          That's the good datacenter anyway 😉

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                            @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                            I have a few TB of data so I assumed BLOB storage was the way to go.

                            Yes, it would be then. But for RDS, unless you are making more than one RDS server, you'd still want it local (same server.)

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                            • bigbearB
                              bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                              @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                              Looks like its only available from VULTR in NY/NJC data centers.

                              That's the good datacenter anyway 😉

                              Oh yeah? Ive been deploying voice switches from several of their locations. I do notice occasionally Chicago has a lag.

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller I know you mentioned you are a "cloud first" guy. Would you go with VULTR on this type of small setup or just order in a server and run it off Hyper-V local?

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear
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                                  @scottalanmiller in addition to my question above I am curious, can you deploy an Azure AD (no servers) and Windows 10 and still have the benefit of Group Policies? Reading some mixed info on that right now as well...

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @bigbear
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                                    @bigbear said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                                    @scottalanmiller in addition to my question above I am curious, can you deploy an Azure AD (no servers) and Windows 10 and still have the benefit of Group Policies? Reading some mixed info on that right now as well...

                                    What I have read recently, if you use the paid version of Azure AD, yes you can get some GPO options.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      If your vultr RPS server doesn't have internet access, how will you connect to it?

                                      Will you have a VPN into the private Vultr network that grants you access?

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                                      • bigbearB
                                        bigbear @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                                        If your vultr RPS server doesn't have internet access, how will you connect to it?

                                        Will you have a VPN into the private Vultr network that grants you access?
                                        Supposedly be remote desktoping into the app server, then internally to the AD server. Or via console access.

                                        As I think about this more, there is pfsenes in the ISO library. If not for a router/gateway from private networks to public, I dont know what else that would be there for. So it would seem to be possible.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Azure AD and OnPrem Windows Server 2016:

                                          If your vultr RPS server doesn't have internet access, how will you connect to it?

                                          It's the AD server that would be without Internet.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller right but if I use ISO library to launch a pfsense instance, trying to figure out how they would stop me from setting that as my gateway on the AD server.

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