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    • coliverC
      coliver @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Home Anti-virus:

      @coliver said in Home Anti-virus:

      Windows Defender.

      When I use Windows, this is what I use. It works perfectly well, it's free and fully integrated. For home users, I don't see any value to replacing it.

      That's my thinking. Traditional AV is outdated and having a hard time keeping up with threats. Why spend a massive amount of money on something that is only going to work slightly better.

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      • nadnerBN
        nadnerB
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        @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad @nadnerB
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          @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

          @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
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          Check your BIOS. It just maybe disabled.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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            @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

            @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....

            How is that even possible?

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            • nadnerBN
              nadnerB @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Home Anti-virus:

              @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

              @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....

              How is that even possible?

              My bad. I was thinking type 1. Type 2 does work. I hate it but it works.

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              • RojoLocoR
                RojoLoco @nadnerB
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                @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

                @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
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                Exactly. All these "free" things being suggested would cause me to have to invest in new hardware, learn VMWare/KVM/XS etc, all just so I can check email or look up info on google. Or I could take the free webroot license I own, apply it to my current machine, and mission accomplished. All the above suggestions also destroy my work/life balance (no interest in loud ass, power sucking virtual host machine hosts in my house). It's like trying to invent a new desalinization process when all you really need is to stick a barrel out to gather rainwater.

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                  Francesco Provino @nadnerB
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                  @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

                  @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....
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                  I don't think it's possible with any x86 machine that has <15 years. Even a Pentium 4 can do regular virtualization (no hw assisted) with virtualbox or vmware… I'm pretty sure of that!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                    @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Home Anti-virus:

                    @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

                    @IRJ & @Francesco-Provino That's all fancy, spankeriffic, and all but my hardware is incapable of virtualisation....

                    How is that even possible?

                    My bad. I was thinking type 1. Type 2 does work. I hate it but it works.

                    How is that possible, though? What is stopping a Type 1 from working?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Francesco Provino
                      last edited by

                      @Francesco-Provino said in Home Anti-virus:

                      I don't think it's possible with any x86 machine that has <15 years. Even a Pentium 4 can do regular virtualization (no hw assisted) with virtualbox or vmware… I'm pretty sure of that!

                      It was only some P4s. The early P4s could not, but by the Pentium D era towards the end of the P4, they could.

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco
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                        @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

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                          stess @nadnerB
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                          @nadnerB said in Home Anti-virus:

                          So I'm having some ridiculous issues with Avast Free AV and I'm considering switching to something else.
                          Details here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=203267.0

                          What have you got for AV?

                          I'm rocking Malwarebytes + Windows Defender on Windows 10. Malwarebytes 3.0+ has be buggy with its trying to do so many task... but so far I am safe from ads on pornhub. ;)\

                          EDIT: I have paid version of Malwarebytes. On my other machine I only have Windows Defender, but I rarely visit websites other than Netflix, Hulu, and Youtube on my other machine.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                            @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                            @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                            Well, it sort of is.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Home Anti-virus:

                              @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                              @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                              Well, it sort of is.

                              Only far outside the scope of the original question.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @RojoLoco
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                                @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                                Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said in Home Anti-virus:

                                  @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                  @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                                  Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.

                                  Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.

                                  Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @RojoLoco
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                                    @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                    @coliver said in Home Anti-virus:

                                    @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                    @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                                    Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.

                                    Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.

                                    Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?

                                    That's fair. I get it's out of the scope of the question but that's kind of a thing we do around here.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                      last edited by

                                      @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                      @coliver said in Home Anti-virus:

                                      @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                      @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                                      Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.

                                      Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.

                                      Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?

                                      Hey, I already provided TWO non-VM pieces of advice...

                                      Use Defender or move to Linux. I think the OP is answered, now we are giving broader options.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in Home Anti-virus:

                                        @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                        @coliver said in Home Anti-virus:

                                        @RojoLoco said in Home Anti-virus:

                                        @Francesco-Provino @scottalanmiller none of that info changes what the OP asked. "Running a disposable VM" is not a type of antivirus.

                                        Originally I was going to agree with you. But now that I think about it running a Windows VM with a snapshot prior to when you're accessing the internet and restoring to that snapshot would be a pretty manageable solution. Especially with machines capable of doing virtualbox.

                                        Not on a box that would struggle with the extra load of virtualization. Being able to run a VM and being able to run a VM well are two different animals.

                                        Bottom line: hey, @nadnerB, were you looking for an AV software or a bunch of "just use virtualization" advice?

                                        That's fair. I get it's out of the scope of the question but that's kind of a thing we do around here.

                                        It's that...

                                        • Original scope implies that the OP knows the answer before asking the question, which makes no sense
                                        • Once original scope is fully covered, all of teh value is in expanding the scope
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                                          stess
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                                          This make me wonder... if my computer has DeepFreeze installed, and it is enabled. If I caught a virus will it be remove the next restart?

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @stess
                                            last edited by

                                            @stess said in Home Anti-virus:

                                            This make me wonder... if my computer has DeepFreeze installed, and it is enabled. If I caught a virus will it be remove the next restart?

                                            Deepfreeze locks the system state. You should be virus free when the machine restarts. However there have been some malware that can get out of the deepfreeze jail and infect the non-volatile file system.

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