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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      Most important thing is that it is not NJ.

      Too true

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

        😆 Don't tell my extended family, ha!

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

          Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

          UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

          Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

          How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @NerdyDad
            last edited by travisdh1

            @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

            Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

            UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

            Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

            How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

            I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.

            Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least 😕

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller LOL 🙂

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

                I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.

                For sure.

                Around here, $85k/year would make for a nice salary in the DFW area, but also know that some areas can get pretty expensive for common essentials, such as rent or electricity, etc.

                For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                  😆 Don't tell my extended family, ha!

                  I'm sure that they already know.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    Seattle, WA - UNIX/Linux System Administrator

                    Columbus, OH - Local IT Generalist

                    UNIX in Seattle, should start around $85K for a junior, head towards $200K for a senior.

                    Generalist in Columbus: Should start no less than $300K for having to be in crappy Columbus.

                    How is the cost of living in, say, Seattle? Would $85k - $200k make for a nice living or still squeaking by paychech-to-paycheck?

                    I'm actually looking for that right now. I'll know for sure once I talk to my family after they get home tonight, that 3 hour time lag can be just slightly annoying.

                    For sure.

                    Around here, $85k/year would make for a nice salary in the DFW area, but also know that some areas can get pretty expensive for common essentials, such as rent or electricity, etc.

                    For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.

                    While these are definitely to good indicators, personally I've moved almost exclusively to the cost of housing. How much will a cost/apt cost in the area you want to be in? That is what helps set your baseline. That and taxes.

                    A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start. 😉

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      A gallon of gasoline might be $1/gal more in NYC, and milk might be $0.50/gal more, but that doesn't even come close to telling you that the average person can't live in a nice part of town because a shit whole in the nice part of town cost half a mil to start. 😉

                      Actually it does way more than you think. It's going purely by the cost of housing that makes people think NYC is so expensive when in reality, it's not nearly as bad as you think that it is. Going purely by the cost of housing is a terrible indicator.

                      Cost of commuting in NYC is generally dirt cheap, for example. And food is often cheap. It costs very little more to live in NYC than it does in most of the US. More, yes, but not as much as Minnesota, for example.

                      It makes NYC seem crazy expensive when people who live there know that it is a surprisingly affordable city, all things considered.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                        last edited by

                        @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        For me, key indicators are a gallon of gasoline and a gallon of milk.

                        but you also have to consider if you even need to drive. NYC, for example, you don't get a car. That's enormous. Imagine the difference in the cost of living if there was no cost for gas, no car payments, no need for a garage, no insurance costs, etc. That's normally a giant factor in other parts of the country.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least 😕

                          I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by NerdyDad

                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least 😕

                            I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.

                            Timeshare?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                              last edited by

                              @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              Edit: Anywhere in the country is going to be more expensive than the area I'm currently located in. So if I'm going to be unemployed for a bit, this is the place to be at least 😕

                              I forgot to tell you. I own part of a house around the corner from you now.

                              Timeshare?

                              Just own it with my cousins.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 If you end up making $120k out in Seattle can you change the title of this thread to "Well, this is really, really great."

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  Yeah, after doing my quick calculations, even the starting salary @scottalanmiller listed would make sense... don't tell THEM that tho!

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
                                    Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).

                                    😄

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                                    • NerdyDadN
                                      NerdyDad @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
                                      Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).

                                      😄

                                      Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.

                                      The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @NerdyDad
                                        last edited by

                                        @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
                                        Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).

                                        😄

                                        Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.

                                        The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.

                                        Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country

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                                        • NerdyDadN
                                          NerdyDad @wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
                                          Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).

                                          😄

                                          Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.

                                          The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.

                                          Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country

                                          True, most of the more enterprise companies would. SMB's probably not so much, or only limited.

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @NerdyDad
                                            last edited by

                                            @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @NerdyDad said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            Interviewer: How much compensation are you looking for?
                                            Travis: To move to Seattle? Let me discuss this life altering decision with my wife. Oh, and we are going to uproot the kids too tsk tsk (even if you don't have kids).

                                            😄

                                            Might want to do a salary calculations to see where you would rank in that market. Since you seem to already have a couple of years experience, then I doubt you would be entry-level Linux/Unix Sys Admin, that should give you some kudos.

                                            The only problem you're looking at is the expense of relocation.

                                            Which most companies will reimburse if you're moving across the country

                                            True, most of the more enterprise companies would. SMB's probably not so much, or only limited.

                                            Oh, this would be well outside the SMB space, this company is in the Fortune 500.

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