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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

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      • AdamFA
        AdamF
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        But if he owns a license key for Windows server, couldn't he just upload an ISO and apply his key, and not pay the $16/month for licensing?

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @AdamF
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          @fuznutz04 Yes. This is if you want to use the Vultr image of Windows Server 2012 R2/2016

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          • AdamFA
            AdamF @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 Right. I wonder if they do anything "special" to their image like adding specific drivers, etc.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @AdamF
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              @fuznutz04 In my experience everything special that they do is not beneficial, like turning off selinux 😞

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @AdamF
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                @fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:

                But if he owns a license key for Windows server, couldn't he just upload an ISO and apply his key, and not pay the $16/month for licensing?

                No, Windows doesn't work that way.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in best hosted Windows server:

                  @fuznutz04 Yes. This is if you want to use the Vultr image of Windows Server 2012 R2/2016

                  No, you can't do that.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @AdamF
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                    @fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:

                    @wirestyle22 Right. I wonder if they do anything "special" to their image like adding specific drivers, etc.

                    Yes, they do. But there is no tech limiting you from doing what you describe, just licensing problems. Because you have to license the entire Vultr cloud because the workload can run anywhere. You don't know how many CPUs they have, how many cores, how many nodes. Assume quad CPU, 12 cores boxes with 4,000 nodes per datacenter. How many Windows standard licenses do you need to run one VM there?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      This older article is about Cloud@Cost where there is no way to run Windows. Vultr has full Windows licensing options, but you can't skip them for the reasons that C@C could not do it at all.

                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller I stand corrected

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                          Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                          Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                          https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps/category/compute

                          But cost wise, it looks like Vultr is cheaper.

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                          • AdamFA
                            AdamF @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/4842/why-you-cannot-effectively-run-windows-on-cloudatcost

                            Where is the dislike button? That sucks. I understand it, but that really is unfortunate.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                              @Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:

                              @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                              Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                              Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                              The top option for an SMB is a console. Azure doesn't offer a console. Nothing else they offer makes it competitive with Vultr in an "ease of use" way. Nothing wrong with not offering a console, AWS does not either. It's the "cloud" way to do things. But SMBs have no use for clouds, they need VPS. Vultr is a VPS build on cloud, so a much better fit for the SMB audience.

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                              • AdamFA
                                AdamF @Obsolesce
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                                @Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:

                                @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                                Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                                https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps/category/compute

                                But cost wise, it looks like Vultr is cheaper.

                                Vultr is certainly cheaper. We have 1 box running in Azure, and we've not had any issues/downtime in over a year. fingers crossed However, a lot of people on here have had bad experiences at some point.

                                If I was to spin up a new Windows workload somewhere in the future, it probably would not be at Azure, due to cost.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @AdamF
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                                  @fuznutz04 said in best hosted Windows server:

                                  Vultr is certainly cheaper. We have 1 box running in Azure, and we've not had any issues/downtime in over a year. fingers crossed However, a lot of people on here have had bad experiences at some point.

                                  The "problem" with Azure is that instead of 100 people all having five minutes of outages, they have five people who have 100 minutes of outages. It's the same downtime average, but hits differently. It means that for people for whom it works, it often really works. But the risk of failure is really high - meaning that unlike an Amazon failure that is often quite small, the failure might be insanely large if you happen to get hit.

                                  It's a lot like a T1 vs. cable line. Cable lines typically drop a few minutes a year, T1s tend to go decades without a missed packet - then go down for a week at a single shot.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                    @Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in best hosted Windows server:

                                    Vultr is certainly who I would use. Far easier than AWS or Azure, too.

                                    Azure is pretty easy with a lot of options:

                                    The top option for an SMB is a console. Azure doesn't offer a console. Nothing else they offer makes it competitive with Vultr in an "ease of use" way. Nothing wrong with not offering a console, AWS does not either. It's the "cloud" way to do things. But SMBs have no use for clouds, they need VPS. Vultr is a VPS build on cloud, so a much better fit for the SMB audience.

                                    Yeah if you need a VPS that is definitely the way to go. Different use model.

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato
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                                      See Vultr is a great thing from NJ 🙂

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22
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                                        Vultr having a datacenter in NJ is another reason I use it 😄

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @dbeato
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                                          @dbeato said in best hosted Windows server:

                                          See Vultr is a great thing from NJ 🙂

                                          I never heard of NJ until I heard of Vultr.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                            @Tim_G said in best hosted Windows server:

                                            @dbeato said in best hosted Windows server:

                                            See Vultr is a great thing from NJ 🙂

                                            I never heard of NJ until I heard of Vultr.

                                            It's the warehouse of NYC.

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