Prevent other Devices to access Company WIFI
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@scottalanmiller said:
Definitely avoid DDWRT in a business. That's a toy OS for hobbyists. Has no place in a business.
In an SMB, why not? It works and it's plenty solid. I'm not saying anything more than 20 users. Outside of that, why not?
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Because it is a hobbyist OS and there are now many options that are not hobbyist versions that are in the same price point.
Another question to @scottalanmiller though, Now that ASUS is selling their medium/high end devices with DDWRT, does this change anything for you?
Not using DDWRT simply because it's hobbyists would mean not using LINUX many years ago.. and it might not be where it is today if not for its continued use outside the 'expected norm.'
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@ajstringham said:
In an SMB, why not? It works and it's plenty solid. I'm not saying anything more than 20 users. Outside of that, why not?
SMBs don't have the money or time to blow resources on toys. Buying consumer gear and then putting a hobby OS onto it doesn't make sense. You will spend as much as you would for enterprise gear while throwing the support that you paid for out of the window. Doing embedded hobby stuff at home for fun is great. Doing it in a business of any size doesn't make sense. Just because a business is small doesn't mean that money can be wasted or stability isn't important.
Reverse the question, you can ask "why not" and the reasons against it are not that strong. It will work and it is cheap. But ask "why?" If you don't have solid business reasons why you would skip fully supported, enterprise equipment in a business, don't go putting modified consumer gear in.
Likewise, I would never, ever put the hardware that DDWRT runs on into a business without DDWRT either.
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@Dashrender said:
Another question to @scottalanmiller though, Now that ASUS is selling their medium/high end devices with DDWRT, does this change anything for you?
Asus definitely changes the equation a little bit. DDWRT itself isn't too bad. It's a solid base. Asus adding some degree of support and better hardware changes things. But unless it is less than $89 significantly, I can't see it making sense compared to enterprise gear. Now that Vyatta is fully supported at that price, it blew away pretty much everything under $1,000 these days.
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To the SMB market, ASUS has a bigger, better known name than Vyatta - which outside of here and SW I've never heard of.
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@Dashrender said:
To the SMB market, ASUS has a bigger, better known name than Vyatta - which outside of here and SW I've never heard of.
I had heard of Vyatta years ago and tested it along side pfSense. I thought pfSense was easier to setup and configure, so I went that route. I liked Vyatta though I basically forgot about it after hearing it went private.
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And now Vyatta is part of Brocade.
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@Dashrender said:
And now Vyatta is part of Brocade.
That is not new. That is what I was referring to when I mentioned it went private.
Things like EdgeMax routers are forked off of one of the last public versions before it went private.
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@Dashrender said:
To the SMB market, ASUS has a bigger, better known name than Vyatta - which outside of here and SW I've never heard of.
That's a seriously sad state of SMB IT. That's like SMBs knowing Linksys and not Cisco.
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@Dashrender said:
Not using DDWRT simply because it's hobbyists would mean not using LINUX many years ago.. and it might not be where it is today if not for its continued use outside the 'expected norm.'
And using it in 1996 would have been crazy. There was clearly a time and their remain Distros that have no place in business.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
To the SMB market, ASUS has a bigger, better known name than Vyatta - which outside of here and SW I've never heard of.
That's a seriously sad state of SMB IT. That's like SMBs knowing Linksys and not Cisco.
Those are Belkin now.
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Yes they are. They just keep going downhill.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yes they are. They just keep going downhill.
Hey, the WRT54G is a staple of the networking industry. And every freaking revision supports dd-wrt. No complaints on a lot of their stuff. Their more recent Cisco Linksys stuff, as in the past two to three years, all sucked. Otherwise, it was solid.
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I think you have a very skewed via of the "networking industry." That's not even prosumer. That's end user stuff from Linksys. The only good part about it was that it was left open and so people with no other access to embedded gear could use it as a hobby platform. It is a staple of the embedded hobby industry. It is in no way even entry class business networking gear.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I think you have a very skewed via of the "networking industry." That's not even prosumer. That's end user stuff from Linksys. The only good part about it was that it was left open and so people with no other access to embedded gear could use it as a hobby platform. It is a staple of the embedded hobby industry. It is in no way even entry class business networking gear.
Every piece of equipment has its place. I never claimed it was a staple of the business networking field, did I?
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@ajstringham you stated networking industry. That implies business.
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@JaredBusch said:
@ajstringham you stated networking industry. That implies business.
I wouldn't say that's the case, but whatever.
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Updates
I already changed all WiFi password and connect their computers while they are away last night.
I just found out last night that there's a Radius settings in our Modem/Router.
So i guess i will try to explore later today and ill post some questions.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I think you have a very skewed via of the "networking industry." That's not even prosumer. That's end user stuff from Linksys. The only good part about it was that it was left open and so people with no other access to embedded gear could use it as a hobby platform. It is a staple of the embedded hobby industry. It is in no way even entry class business networking gear.
Every piece of equipment has its place. I never claimed it was a staple of the business networking field, did I?
The networking industry = business. That's what that term means. And no, every piece of equipment or every technology does not have a place. Many do but that anything no matter how poor or quirky has a place somewhere is a myth, it's a non-logical statement used to cover for a lack of known use cases.
Look at RAID 2 and RAID 3. Literally no use cases. No purpose for them to exist at all. It's not a "but in this one special case." No use cases.
You could easily build a car that doesn't run. You wouldn't expect it to be "the best car for a few rare people." It doesn't work. It's just not a car that needs to exist.
