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    • matteo nunziatiM
      matteo nunziati @Deleted74295
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      @Breffni-Potter quite easy: I was here for xenapp. They are talking netscaler for 30 min. Finally landed now on xenapp

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      • matteo nunziatiM
        matteo nunziati @Deleted74295
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        @Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info. What company gains? Nothing now but having a bit of knowledge lets me provide better advice to the idiotic things they shant buy just because it is cool.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @matteo nunziati
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          @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

          Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning?

          I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            No SMB needs a Netscaler 🙂 It's a waste of time if you are hoping to learn about a product that will be useful to you.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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              @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

              @Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info.

              That's not always the case. Biased info can be far worse than no info at all. Like learning about a SAN but being told it is a panacea instead of what it really is. Way better to not know that something exists that to learn misleading information about it.

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              • matteo nunziatiM
                matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                @Breffni-Potter what am I gaining?: a bit of biased info. But still an info.

                That's not always the case. Biased info can be far worse than no info at all. Like learning about a SAN but being told it is a panacea instead of what it really is. Way better to not know that something exists that to learn misleading information about it.

                well no, I was specifically thinking about the features of xenapp. their online docs were interesting, but not so detailed. having the possibility to have a talk with a couple or real people was an interesting opportunity. Still info was filtered by commercial s**t but at least more details were to be discovered.

                Unfortunately, I was invited as a reseller's lead for xenapp as a way to put all stuff into a virtualized "repo" (automation was my interest) BUT the italian HD of citrix has sent people involved in security.

                Netscaler is secure for this, xandesktop is secure for that... I DON'T GIVE A F**K ABOUT SECURITY...
                I said it out loud? ops...

                err... maybe resellers should coordinate with the distributor/vendor before picking invitations. At least I have had few exchanges with other IT guys at the event. An considering the inclination of my current company to NOT expose me to meetings/conferences with other guys, this has been welcome (why do you want to talk to someone else, just do the work)

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                • matteo nunziatiM
                  matteo nunziati @stacksofplates
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                  @stacksofplates said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                  @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                  Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning?

                  I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000

                  even the VA? great value for a reverse proxy on steroids 🙂

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @matteo nunziati
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                    @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                    @stacksofplates said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                    Being invited to a citrix event, they are trying to explain how my smb needs a netscaler... No one talking about prices.. sixth sense says this is BS. Am I wasting my morning?

                    I think they are something in the ballpark of $25,000

                    even the VA? great value for a reverse proxy on steroids 🙂

                    Here's the VPX. $25K for the standard 3Gbps version. http://store.citrix.com/store/citrix/en_US/pd/ThemeID.28169600/productID.315172500

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                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati @stacksofplates
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                      @stacksofplates mmm... and I thought HPE was expensive 😛

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                      • matteo nunziatiM
                        matteo nunziati
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                        found this <- kemp
                        and this <- nginx

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                          @matteo-nunziati said in Netscaler in smb opinion:

                          found this <- kemp
                          and this <- nginx

                          Don't forget HA-Proxy

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                          • matteo nunziatiM
                            matteo nunziati
                            last edited by matteo nunziati

                            ok, so according to the presentation a netscaler is:

                            • a load balancer
                            • a reverse proxy
                            • a SSO gateway
                            • a (W)AF (web application firewall)

                            now first two points can be obtained by haproxy/ngnix

                            point 3 can be obtained -just googled- for web apps by naxsi + nginx or modsec + nginx/apache.

                            also point 3 for non web apps can maybe obtained via these softwares (wiki)

                            I miss point 2 an - with a bit of effort - I have my free open netscaler 😛

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