Unitrends and Office365
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
I brought all of this up originally thinking that it might make life easier for IT admins if devices like Unitrends box or a fax gateway utilized full SMTP, thinking that you wouldn't have to build accounts on the email server of the company to get those messages because they were only ever incoming. But in thinking about it... you'd probably want the email address to appear to be coming from a specific address that is on your own network, and the good email servers probably deny emails from it's own domain from none authenticated devices... so it's all a moot point.
Exactly. Unitrends does what you thought. Just not as useful as you'd hoped.
Might be a better question for @art_of_shred or @Minion-Queen . I haven't been an installer for a year and a half and have no idea...
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In case someone stumbles upon this based on the SEO of the title, Unitrends has since this time started supporting backing up of Office 365 data as well, not just sending email through it.
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@scottalanmiller Thanks for updating this thread. Our Office365 support includes protection for email, Sharepoint & OneDrive. More information is available here.
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Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
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@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
Mostly people asking if they should.
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@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
Mostly people asking if they should.
And isn't the final answer (after much of the same wandering) usually backup if you can?
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@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
Mostly people asking if they should.
And isn't the final answer (after much of the same wandering) usually backup if you can?
It's "do the right thing for you."
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@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said
It's "do the right thing for you."
Isn't everything in life?
Pretty much.
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When is doing a backup incorrect and when is not doing a backup correct in this situation?
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@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
When it doing a backup incorrect and when it not doing a backup correct in this situation?
What?
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And isn't the final answer (after much of the same wandering) usually backup if you can?
It's "do the right thing for you."
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@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
When is doing a backup incorrect and when is not doing a backup correct in this situation?
When is doing an EXTRA backup. That's the biggest question.
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@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
Mostly people asking if they should.
And isn't the final answer (after much of the same wandering) usually backup if you can?
Right... but what was the question you're asking? If backup is right or not right? It all depends on the situation and how important the data is. How much extra does it cost to implement the backup of that data and does the cost of that backup outweigh the cost of recreating it.
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@coliver said in Unitrends and Office365:
@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
Mostly people asking if they should.
And isn't the final answer (after much of the same wandering) usually backup if you can?
Right... but what was the question you're asking? If backup is right or not right? It all depends on the situation and how important the data is. How much extra does it cost to implement the backup of that data and is the cost of that backup outweigh the cost of recreating it.
I'm essentially asking what are the considerations to take into account but I didn't articulate it that way. Sorry
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@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
@coliver said in Unitrends and Office365:
@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
Office365 backup always seems to get a thread started every month or so...
Mostly people asking if they should.
And isn't the final answer (after much of the same wandering) usually backup if you can?
Right... but what was the question you're asking? If backup is right or not right? It all depends on the situation and how important the data is. How much extra does it cost to implement the backup of that data and is the cost of that backup outweigh the cost of recreating it.
I'm essentially asking what are the considerations to take into account but I didn't articulate it that way. Sorry
Oh got it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
When is doing a backup incorrect and when is not doing a backup correct in this situation?
When is doing an EXTRA backup. That's the biggest question.
Where are you getting the "Extra" backup from? Especially in cases of O365. If MS has a backup, but won't let you request it... Is it really a backup (since you can't put your hands on it if you need it)?
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@dafyre said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
When is doing a backup incorrect and when is not doing a backup correct in this situation?
When is doing an EXTRA backup. That's the biggest question.
Where are you getting the "Extra" backup from? Especially in cases of O365. If MS has a backup, but won't let you request it... Is it really a backup (since you can't put your hands on it if you need it)?
This is always the thing.
For me, the case for backup is
a) if a hacker gets access to your admin creds and destroys everything
NOTE: @scottalanmiller will say if they wanted to do this, they could just destroy your backups, as well, but that's not the case if they are stored on a separate off-site systemb) a user deletes something, and it filters out of the site recycle bin
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@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@dafyre said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
When is doing a backup incorrect and when is not doing a backup correct in this situation?
When is doing an EXTRA backup. That's the biggest question.
Where are you getting the "Extra" backup from? Especially in cases of O365. If MS has a backup, but won't let you request it... Is it really a backup (since you can't put your hands on it if you need it)?
This is always the thing.
For me, the case for backup is
a) if a hacker gets access to your admin creds and destroys everything
NOTE: @scottalanmiller will say if they wanted to do this, they could just destroy your backups, as well, but that's not the case if they are stored on a separate off-site systemb) a user deletes something, and it filters out of the site recycle bin
Right. I classify that as "a backup". I'm trying to figure out why Scott used the term "extra".
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@dafyre said in Unitrends and Office365:
@BRRABill said in Unitrends and Office365:
@dafyre said in Unitrends and Office365:
@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends and Office365:
@wirestyle22 said in Unitrends and Office365:
When is doing a backup incorrect and when is not doing a backup correct in this situation?
When is doing an EXTRA backup. That's the biggest question.
Where are you getting the "Extra" backup from? Especially in cases of O365. If MS has a backup, but won't let you request it... Is it really a backup (since you can't put your hands on it if you need it)?
This is always the thing.
For me, the case for backup is
a) if a hacker gets access to your admin creds and destroys everything
NOTE: @scottalanmiller will say if they wanted to do this, they could just destroy your backups, as well, but that's not the case if they are stored on a separate off-site systemb) a user deletes something, and it filters out of the site recycle bin
Right. I classify that as "a backup". I'm trying to figure out why Scott used the term "extra".
Because there is already a backup taken by the vendor. The question here is not "backup vs no backup". It's "that backup vs. this back and that backup."
