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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Any reason you can't mount this drive into another working system to copy the files off?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Doing a remote robocopy, while not "disallowed" isn't really the best approach in my experience.

        I've always run robocopy from the source, not from the target (or on a intermediary server)

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        • Mike DavisM
          Mike Davis
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          @DustinB3403 said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

          Any reason you can't mount this drive into another working system to copy the files off?

          The old server is physical, so I would have to pull the RAID array...

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          • Mike DavisM
            Mike Davis @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

            Doing a remote robocopy, while not "disallowed" isn't really the best approach in my experience.

            I've always run robocopy from the source, not from the target (or on a intermediary server)

            When I log in locally (or with remote desktop) the server locks up.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
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              @Mike-Davis said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

              @DustinB3403 said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

              Any reason you can't mount this drive into another working system to copy the files off?

              The old server is physical, so I would have to pull the RAID array...

              OK.. yep that sucks.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
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                @Mike-Davis said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                @DustinB3403 said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                Doing a remote robocopy, while not "disallowed" isn't really the best approach in my experience.

                I've always run robocopy from the source, not from the target (or on a intermediary server)

                When I log in locally (or with remote desktop) the server locks up.

                Any chance that the robocopy job is just too intensive? Have you tried any other solutions like powershell?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                  @Mike-Davis said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                  @DustinB3403 said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                  Doing a remote robocopy, while not "disallowed" isn't really the best approach in my experience.

                  I've always run robocopy from the source, not from the target (or on a intermediary server)

                  When I log in locally (or with remote desktop) the server locks up.

                  That's not exactly a direct answer. When you log in remotely from PowerShell?

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                  • Mike DavisM
                    Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                    @Mike-Davis said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                    @DustinB3403 said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                    Doing a remote robocopy, while not "disallowed" isn't really the best approach in my experience.

                    I've always run robocopy from the source, not from the target (or on a intermediary server)

                    When I log in locally (or with remote desktop) the server locks up.

                    That's not exactly a direct answer. When you log in remotely from PowerShell?

                    using the copy-item powershell command returns

                    Copy-Item : Access to the path '\\server1\public\Sales-Ads-Marketing2014\History2-17-14\duntonwriting\DuntonWriting
                    .png' is denied.
                    At line:1 char:10
                    + Copy-Item <<<<  \\server1\public\Sales-Ads-Marketing2014\History2-17-14\duntonwriting\DuntonWriting.png c:
                        + CategoryInfo          : PermissionDenied: (\\server1\publ...ntonWriting.png:FileInfo) [Copy-Item], Unauthorized
                       AccessException
                        + FullyQualifiedErrorId : CopyFileInfoItemUnauthorizedAccessError,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.CopyItemCommand
                    

                    Was there another powershell command I should try?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      So Copy-Item fails from perms, can you change perms over PowerShell to get control of the file?

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                      • Mike DavisM
                        Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                        So Copy-Item fails from perms, can you change perms over PowerShell to get control of the file?

                        Not sure how to do that. Everyone already has full control and I already have ownership, and you can't give ownership. Normally the command would be get-acl, add you permissions to the ones in the array, then set-acl. You can't add yours to the list when they are already there.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                          @Mike-Davis said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                          @scottalanmiller said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                          So Copy-Item fails from perms, can you change perms over PowerShell to get control of the file?

                          Not sure how to do that. Everyone already has full control and I already have ownership, and you can't give ownership. Normally the command would be get-acl, add you permissions to the ones in the array, then set-acl. You can't add yours to the list when they are already there.

                          Those are NTFS ACLs. Are you sure that you have permission to read/copy in SMB? Because you are accessing through the SMB filesystem here, not talking to NTFS directly. So check those perms as well.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                            @Mike-Davis said in MAC OS X writing to NTFS:

                            no randsomware.

                            Is that related to handsomeware?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              So how is a Mac involved here? It seems like you are trying to do a Windows to Windows copy, no Mac in the process?

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Mac OS X Writing to NTFS:

                                So how is a Mac involved here? It seems like you are trying to do a Windows to Windows copy, no Mac in the process?

                                Correct. It seems that a Mac unzipped the files to the windows server. There was a bug at the time that set the file type bit to something that makes windows think it's encrypted. (thus windows shows it as green and the encrypted check box is checked)

                                All I'm trying to do now is copy the files from a server that is having issues to a new server.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  I think that the Mac and the encryption are red herrings. How a file originated or that it is encrypted should not have an effect on a copy operation. I think the issue is with permissions somewhere and those factors are just causing confusion.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @Mike Davis
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                                    @Mike-Davis said in Mac OS X Writing to NTFS:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Mac OS X Writing to NTFS:

                                    So how is a Mac involved here? It seems like you are trying to do a Windows to Windows copy, no Mac in the process?

                                    Correct. It seems that a Mac unzipped the files to the windows server. There was a bug at the time that set the file type bit to something that makes windows think it's encrypted. (thus windows shows it as green and the encrypted check box is checked)

                                    All I'm trying to do now is copy the files from a server that is having issues to a new server.

                                    Where are you running the copy operation from? The new server or the server with issues?

                                    I'd suggest trying to run the copy FROM the server with issues.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said in Mac OS X Writing to NTFS:

                                      @Mike-Davis said in Mac OS X Writing to NTFS:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Mac OS X Writing to NTFS:

                                      So how is a Mac involved here? It seems like you are trying to do a Windows to Windows copy, no Mac in the process?

                                      Correct. It seems that a Mac unzipped the files to the windows server. There was a bug at the time that set the file type bit to something that makes windows think it's encrypted. (thus windows shows it as green and the encrypted check box is checked)

                                      All I'm trying to do now is copy the files from a server that is having issues to a new server.

                                      Where are you running the copy operation from? The new server or the server with issues?

                                      I'd suggest trying to run the copy FROM the server with issues.

                                      He can't, logging in causes the system to crash.

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