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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:
@aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:
@scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.
Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.
Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?
There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.
So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.
No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.
Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.
So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).
But I do not see your hangup on this point.
My point is that with Twitter, if I want to see a feed of "everything", I just go to Twitter.com. This isn't popular, but Twitter is "the whole world". But in this case it would just be ML people, so I think that a feed would be the most popular place to go, especially as the traffic would be so low that it would be the only way to see anything interesting. Going directly to individual people is okay, if there is a Twitter-like page for doing so.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:
@aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:
@scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.
Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.
Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?
There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.
So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.
No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.
Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.
So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).
But I do not see your hangup on this point.
My point is that with Twitter, if I want to see a feed of "everything", I just go to Twitter.com. This isn't popular, but Twitter is "the whole world". But in this case it would just be ML people, so I think that a feed would be the most popular place to go, especially as the traffic would be so low that it would be the only way to see anything interesting. Going directly to individual people is okay, if there is a Twitter-like page for doing so.
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@scottalanmiller The entire project just kicked off last October.
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And I just found something saying there is some project to let you cross post to twitter.
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
And I just found something saying there is some project to let you cross post to twitter.
That would be nice.
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@Tim_G said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.
I do
What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@stacksofplates said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.
Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.
hehe you said "I toot"
That is what it is called. I assume because a Mastodon has a trunk.
Ya I'm just being dumb as usual.
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@Tim_G said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.
I do
What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?
For example, if I want to know news or security issues, a lot of people tweet them.... and it's so much faster and easier to find this kind of stuff by simply going to twitter.com and searching:
https://twitter.com/search?q=Hyper-V&src=typd
With the above example, Aidan Finn even shows up in the first few results and he always has good stuff posted.
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@Tim_G said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@Tim_G said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.
I do
What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?
For example, if I want to know news or security issues, a lot of people tweet them.... and it's so much faster and easier to find this kind of stuff by simply going to twitter.com and searching:
https://twitter.com/search?q=Hyper-V&src=typd
With the above example, Aidan Finn even shows up in the first few results and he always has good stuff posted.
Yeah, I would never do that, like ever. I know of no one before you just said that who does.
Yes, I have used twitter to search before, but only because I was looking for something I know was posted on twitter. Never for random search from the home page.
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
So I jumped around a few random tags to see what was out there.
ended up on the #monday tag https://mastodon.social/tags/monday
I saw a post there from 2 months ago form a "news feed"
Clicked on the name to jump to their feed and see what it said.
That took me to here https://quitter.im/newsstream
and like many of the other random names I clicked on they all reference the GNUSocial network of federated servers and the Ostatus protocol.
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From that page, I clicked on the gnusocial header icon
That took me here
https://quitter.im/main/all
clicking on the posts there expands them to show they are coming from many different servers.
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When I log in, it shows a federated timeline:
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Gargron (Mastodon author and owner of mastodon.social) posted on Medium about his experiences scaling.
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@aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!
I get that the guy is a software developer so he's not IT it's not his job to understand how bad that is but as we are IT, someone so much need to go help fix the design.
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!
I get that the guy is a software developer so he's not IT it's not his job to understand how bad that is but as we are IT, someone so much need to go help fix the design.
Wasn't this the issue that Github had too? They have a developer in an infrastructure position and then lost a bunch of data? Seems like this would be a similar situation.
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!
I get that the guy is a software developer so he's not IT it's not his job to understand how bad that is but as we are IT, someone so much need to go help fix the design.
Any I feel like PostgreSQL is an odd choice for this. Relational data for micro-blogging? He talks about issues scaling the database... issues that appear to be caused specifically by choosing a relational database like this.
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@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@JaredBusch said in Mastodon:
@aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!
I get that the guy is a software developer so he's not IT it's not his job to understand how bad that is but as we are IT, someone so much need to go help fix the design.
Wasn't this the issue that Github had too? They have a developer in an infrastructure position and then lost a bunch of data? Seems like this would be a similar situation.
Yes, sounds very familiar.
