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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @aidan_walsh
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      @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

      @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

      @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

      Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

      Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

      Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

      There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

      So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

        @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

        @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

        @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

        Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

        Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

        Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

        There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

        So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

        No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

        Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.

        So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).

        But I do not see your hangup on this point.

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        • NerdyDadN
          NerdyDad
          last edited by

          I'm just going to leave this here:

          Youtube Video

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

            @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

            @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

            @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

            Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

            Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

            Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

            There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

            So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

            No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

            Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.

            So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).

            But I do not see your hangup on this point.

            My point is that with Twitter, if I want to see a feed of "everything", I just go to Twitter.com. This isn't popular, but Twitter is "the whole world". But in this case it would just be ML people, so I think that a feed would be the most popular place to go, especially as the traffic would be so low that it would be the only way to see anything interesting. Going directly to individual people is okay, if there is a Twitter-like page for doing so.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

              @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

              @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

              @aidan_walsh said in Mastodon:

              @scottalanmiller said in Mastodon:

              @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

              Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

              Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

              Very true. So far, not sure how to even find toots on a Mastodon system if I'm not signed onto one. Anyone seen a public stream anywhere?

              There is a public stream API, but I don't know of a website that shows it. I use Tusky on Android and can reach it from there.

              So, in theory, we could MAKE a new site that would display it. Not a horrible idea, but not ideal either.

              No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

              Either they go to their own feed to view things, or they go to something someone linked them like twitter.com/sorvani or twitter.com/someceleb or twitter.com/somehashtag.

              So for that second case, some type of public search feed will be useful and it will certainly exist soon if not already (and we just do not know a link).

              But I do not see your hangup on this point.

              My point is that with Twitter, if I want to see a feed of "everything", I just go to Twitter.com. This isn't popular, but Twitter is "the whole world". But in this case it would just be ML people, so I think that a feed would be the most popular place to go, especially as the traffic would be so low that it would be the only way to see anything interesting. Going directly to individual people is okay, if there is a Twitter-like page for doing so.

              Example: https://mastodon.social/tags/mastadon

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller The entire project just kicked off last October.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  And I just found something saying there is some project to let you cross post to twitter.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                    No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                    I do 😕

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                      And I just found something saying there is some project to let you cross post to twitter.

                      That would be nice.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @Tim_G said in Mastodon:

                        @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                        No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                        I do 😕

                        What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                          @stacksofplates said in Mastodon:

                          @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                          Obviously the chicken and egg question comes in from a marketing point of view.

                          Who will see anything I toot out? But Twitter had the same stigma until it hit some critical mass of popularity.

                          hehe you said "I toot"

                          That is what it is called. I assume because a Mastodon has a trunk.

                          Ya I'm just being dumb as usual.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                            @Tim_G said in Mastodon:

                            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                            No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                            I do 😕

                            What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?

                            For example, if I want to know news or security issues, a lot of people tweet them.... and it's so much faster and easier to find this kind of stuff by simply going to twitter.com and searching:

                            https://twitter.com/search?q=Hyper-V&src=typd

                            With the above example, Aidan Finn even shows up in the first few results and he always has good stuff posted.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Tim_G said in Mastodon:

                              @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                              @Tim_G said in Mastodon:

                              @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                              No one just goes to twitter.com to get information.

                              I do 😕

                              What possible intelligent information can be gleaned that way?

                              For example, if I want to know news or security issues, a lot of people tweet them.... and it's so much faster and easier to find this kind of stuff by simply going to twitter.com and searching:

                              https://twitter.com/search?q=Hyper-V&src=typd

                              With the above example, Aidan Finn even shows up in the first few results and he always has good stuff posted.

                              Yeah, I would never do that, like ever. I know of no one before you just said that who does.

                              Yes, I have used twitter to search before, but only because I was looking for something I know was posted on twitter. Never for random search from the home page.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                Example: https://mastodon.social/tags/mastadon

                                So I jumped around a few random tags to see what was out there.

                                ended up on the #monday tag https://mastodon.social/tags/monday

                                I saw a post there from 2 months ago form a "news feed"
                                0_1492014150686_upload-7a51da43-0090-4407-8b6a-788ab90bdc3b

                                Clicked on the name to jump to their feed and see what it said.

                                That took me to here https://quitter.im/newsstream

                                and like many of the other random names I clicked on they all reference the GNUSocial network of federated servers and the Ostatus protocol.
                                0_1492014247985_upload-f3177d5a-614a-48cb-948b-109716c5077d

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  From that page, I clicked on the gnusocial header icon
                                  0_1492014427359_upload-67892962-2cb7-40a5-8160-06a3167b080f

                                  That took me here
                                  https://quitter.im/main/all

                                  0_1492014471298_upload-65e91b8a-fa06-4aea-a547-791609f088a8

                                  clicking on the posts there expands them to show they are coming from many different servers.

                                  0_1492014564041_upload-d9d54aff-8448-413d-a55b-171610e013dc

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    When I log in, it shows a federated timeline:

                                    0_1492030538114_Untitled.jpg

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                                    • A
                                      aidan_walsh
                                      last edited by

                                      Gargron (Mastodon author and owner of mastodon.social) posted on Medium about his experiences scaling.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @aidan_walsh
                                        last edited by

                                        @aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                          @aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!

                                          And they are tiny boxes.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by JaredBusch

                                            @JaredBusch said in Mastodon:

                                            @aidan_walsh it's all running on bare metal!

                                            I get that the guy is a software developer so he's not IT it's not his job to understand how bad that is but as we are IT, someone so much need to go help fix the design.

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