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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @Tim_G yeah, that's very different. For WordPress, normally you never touch the DB again, ever.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        Updated the instrucitons a bit to make the MySQL setup non interactive and fixed a missing bit of info for the httpd.conf.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          Thanks to @BRRABill it looks like I missed some SELinux issues.

          Instructions updated, but this is what I needed to resolve his issues so far. He just installed, so maybe more updates to come 😛

          yum install -y policycoreutils-python
          semanage fcontext -a -t httpd_sys_content_t '/opt/yourdomain(/.*)?'
          restorecon -R /opt/yourdomain
          semanage fcontext -a -t httpd_sys_rw_content_t '/opt/yourdomain/wp-content(/.*)?'
          restorecon -R /opt/yourdomain/wp-content
          
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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            One other thing @JaredBusch and I discussed was the location in /opt and opposed to /var

            In theory, it should not matter.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch

              BTW, thanks for the writeup. Very good job.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                One other thing @JaredBusch and I discussed was the location in /opt and opposed to /var

                In theory, it should not matter.

                @scottalanmiller there was a discussion in a thread here a couple years ago around using /opt/ for wordpress installs. but I cannot find it. I think there was a reasoning from someone in there for that location.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                  @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                  One other thing @JaredBusch and I discussed was the location in /opt and opposed to /var

                  In theory, it should not matter.

                  @scottalanmiller there was a discussion in a thread here a couple years ago around using /opt/ for wordpress installs. but I cannot find it. I think there was a reasoning from someone in there for that location.

                  Only thing I know of is that YUM using that location. But have no idea why.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                    Web Applications

                    Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                    • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                    • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                    • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                      Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                      https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                      Web Applications

                      Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                      • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                      • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                      • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

                      Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.

                      No idea about the hierarchy.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                        @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                        Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                        https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                        Web Applications

                        Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                        • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                        • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                        • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

                        Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.

                        No idea about the hierarchy.

                        Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
                        https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challenge

                        Now I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                          @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                          Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                          https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                          Web Applications

                          Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                          • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                          • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                          • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

                          Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.

                          No idea about the hierarchy.

                          Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challenge

                          Now I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.

                          I have a feeling that it was or is the nginx default directory.

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                          • RomoR
                            Romo @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                            @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                            Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                            https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                            Web Applications

                            Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                            • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                            • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                            • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

                            Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.

                            No idea about the hierarchy.

                            Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challenge

                            Now I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.

                            I ask about it after seing your guide and you choosing /opt for the instalation

                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/12567/is-there-a-best-practice-for-the-location-of-the-root-folder-of-a-webapp

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Romo
                              last edited by

                              @Romo said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                              @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                              @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                              Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                              https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                              Web Applications

                              Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                              • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                              • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                              • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

                              Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.

                              No idea about the hierarchy.

                              Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
                              https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challenge

                              Now I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.

                              I ask about it after seing your guide and you choosing /opt for the instalation

                              https://mangolassi.it/topic/12567/is-there-a-best-practice-for-the-location-of-the-root-folder-of-a-webapp

                              And as you can see from my link above, @scottalanmiller's answer in your thread is not helpful. He simply stated standards. But what standard is the question.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                @JaredBusch said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                Looking into things I found this link. Granted this is about packaging for RPM but still.
                                https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Web_Applications

                                Web Applications

                                Web applications packaged in Fedora should put their content into /usr/share/%{name} and NOT into /var/www/. This is done because:

                                • /var is supposed to contain variable data files and logs. /usr/share is much more appropriate for this.
                                • Many users already have content in /var/www, and we do not want any Fedora package to step on top of that.
                                • /var/www is no longer specified by the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard

                                Hmmm... point two I understand. It's already in use. But it was always in /var specifically because it is variable data, that's where upload caches and stuff go.

                                No idea about the hierarchy.

                                Looks like I got the /opt thing from you. Your LEMP challenge used /opt/wordpress.
                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/1082/the-wordpress-on-centos-lemp-challenge

                                Now I know there was a subsequent discussion somewhere on ML about /opt, I just cannot find it.

                                I have a feeling that it was or is the nginx default directory.

                                No, you continually reference /opt as the directory to use for 3rd party applications.

                                It I guess the better question is whether or not web apps like this are considered third party applications or something to put in webroot. A Google site search of this site and the term /opt returns many threads with directions from you installing things to /opt.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  He also has said that /var is the only place data should be stored.

                                  Hmmmmm.........

                                  Come on @scottalanmiller let's get it figured out! 🙂

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch

                                    Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                      @JaredBusch

                                      Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?

                                      Neither. It is not related to WordPress, web hosting or to CentOS directly. It's a memory setting that would be dependent on many factors, like the IOPS you have, the storage and memory that you have, how you want your disk used, how the disks are shared with other systems, how much disk capacity you have spare and so forth.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                        @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                        @JaredBusch

                                        Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?

                                        Neither. It is not related to WordPress, web hosting or to CentOS directly. It's a memory setting that would be dependent on many factors, like the IOPS you have, the storage and memory that you have, how you want your disk used, how the disks are shared with other systems, how much disk capacity you have spare and so forth.

                                        Isn't it one of the settings you normally always enable?

                                        Or am I thinking about something else?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                          @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                          @JaredBusch

                                          Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?

                                          Neither. It is not related to WordPress, web hosting or to CentOS directly. It's a memory setting that would be dependent on many factors, like the IOPS you have, the storage and memory that you have, how you want your disk used, how the disks are shared with other systems, how much disk capacity you have spare and so forth.

                                          Isn't it one of the settings you normally always enable?

                                          Or am I thinking about something else?

                                          generally he says he always sets it to 30 or something like that in other threads.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                            @BRRABill said in Installing Wordpress on CentOS 7 Minimal:

                                            @JaredBusch

                                            Perhaps this is offtopic, but what is the swappiness setting you are supposed to use? Would that be applicable to this article, or is that a more "general CentOS setup" setting?

                                            Neither. It is not related to WordPress, web hosting or to CentOS directly. It's a memory setting that would be dependent on many factors, like the IOPS you have, the storage and memory that you have, how you want your disk used, how the disks are shared with other systems, how much disk capacity you have spare and so forth.

                                            Isn't it one of the settings you normally always enable?

                                            Or am I thinking about something else?

                                            It's not enabling or disabling, it's setting it. The OS default is 60. Many cloud providers change this in their own defaults because it impacts other customers. On my cloud instances, I normally set to 10.

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