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    • bigbearB
      bigbear @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch I am curious as to whether I could stick a second unit at a branch office and replicate say 500GB of data with that office. Would it require a VPN or do they have any kind of sync over https?

      Or is it the sync I have seen in QNAP. The GUI looks really cool and it looks like exactly what we need..

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @bigbear
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        @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

        @JaredBusch I am curious as to whether I could stick a second unit at a branch office and replicate say 500GB of data with that office. Would it require a VPN or do they have any kind of sync over https?

        Or is it the sync I have seen in QNAP. The GUI looks really cool and it looks like exactly what we need..

        Looks like I even have one of those models..
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        I have never used the built in sync. I use them only as a backup target on site. But it has rsync built in.
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          Brett at ioSafe Vendor @bigbear
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          @bigbear A diskless 2-bay costs $659.99. You can find pricing on our website.

          https://iosafe.com

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch Do you have the disc manager desktop?

            These are incredibly cheap!

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear @Brett at ioSafe
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              @Brett-at-ioSafe could you recommend a model similar to the Synology? Would love to check that out too.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                @JaredBusch I am curious as to whether I could stick a second unit at a branch office and replicate say 500GB of data with that office. Would it require a VPN or do they have any kind of sync over https?

                Or is it the sync I have seen in QNAP. The GUI looks really cool and it looks like exactly what we need..

                Basically all NAS use Rsync under the hood and Rsync works directly on SSH.

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Has it gotten any better for 2 way sync?

                  On the website they show dropbox integration. That would be significant.

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                    Brett at ioSafe Vendor @bigbear
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                    @bigbear All our NAS are similar to Synology as they all run Synology's operating system 🙂 What capacity to do you need? The 216 provides up to 16TB of raw capacity while the 1515+ provides up to 120TB (when used in conjunction with expansion chassis)..

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                      @scottalanmiller Has it gotten any better for 2 way sync?

                      No one really does two way sync. Rsync doesn't even attempt two way.

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller I wonder if the dropbox integration could sync a large folder between two synology devices.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @bigbear
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                          @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                          @scottalanmiller I wonder if the dropbox integration could sync a large folder between two synology devices.

                          sure, but why? the devices can do it themselves.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch per @scottalanmiller no one does two way sync.

                            Is it a cloud feature of synology?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:

                              @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                              @scottalanmiller Has it gotten any better for 2 way sync?

                              No one really does two way sync. Rsync doesn't even attempt two way.

                              And in this instance, you do not want two way sync. Why would even go there? The one in colo or the main office is supposed to be a copy only. You don't want dual masters. That is just a mess waiting to happen. You want a master, a slave, and a backup.

                              I recommend making the backup off the slave just because it was suggested to be in a colo with no bandwidth concerns.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                @JaredBusch per @scottalanmiller no one does two way sync.

                                Is it a cloud feature of synology?

                                I think you are mixing things up. There is no two way sync.

                                Drop box is a client that pushes all changes to its master (their server) and then the clients know to pull down changes.

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch its a long standing desire to have about 800gb replicated real time to a branch office. Looked at Nasuni and storage gateways starting at $50k.

                                  I would assume dropbox on synology would work the way it does between 2 machines, but maybe I am wrong. Change a file on the network shared dropbox on synology and see it synced to desktops, then vice versa.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                                    @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                    @JaredBusch its a long standing desire to have about 800gb replicated real time to a branch office. Looked at Nasuni and storage gateways starting at $50k.

                                    I would assume dropbox on synology would work the way it does between 2 machines, but maybe I am wrong. Change a file on the network shared dropbox on synology and see it synced to desktops, then vice versa.

                                    Nasuni isn't multi-master either.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                      @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                      @JaredBusch its a long standing desire to have about 800gb replicated real time to a branch office. Looked at Nasuni and storage gateways starting at $50k.

                                      I would assume dropbox on synology would work the way it does between 2 machines, but maybe I am wrong. Change a file on the network shared dropbox on synology and see it synced to desktops, then vice versa.

                                      Yes, but that is not multi-master either.

                                      If two people edit the same file you will hit conflicts. No sync service can be multi-master.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                                        If two people edit the same file you will hit conflicts. No sync service can be multi-master.

                                        People use them this way all the time, but they are not multi-master. If the same files are almost never touched, then it will give the appearance of it. And that suffices for many.

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                                        • bigbearB
                                          bigbear @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch yeah I guess I see - you are talking about file locking and the live editing of the same document.

                                          The files in question are rarely updated on both sides, very rarely. Definitely wouldn't be any conflicts as a result of two parties editing the same doc.

                                          The more frequent use case is that someone dumps new docs in folder A and on the other side someone dumps something new in folder B and both want to see it. Someone would edit, finish a project forward in workflow to next person who would be able to see and edit it.

                                          Is that something Synology does?

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller Maybe it was Panzura that was multi-master.

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