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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Danp
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      @Danp said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

      @DustinB3403 Care to be our "guinea pig" and be the first to upgrade? 😉

      Sure my home lab. 🙂

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      • DanpD
        Danp @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 Looks like @olivier just released an update to XO as well.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Danp
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          @Danp said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

          @DustinB3403 Looks like @olivier just released an update to XO as well.

          Awesome

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          • DanpD
            Danp @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller Appears to include XOSAN.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Danp
              last edited by

              @Danp said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

              @scottalanmiller Appears to include XOSAN.

              Sweet

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              • DanpD
                Danp
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                Might want to hold off on updating as there appears to be an issue with connecting to some NFS SRs.

                https://bugs.xenserver.org/browse/XSO-685

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
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                  @scottalanmiller

                  Am I reading it right that there are features that are only available in the enterprise edition? Such as the live patching?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                    @scottalanmiller

                    Am I reading it right that there are features that are only available in the enterprise edition? Such as the live patching?

                    Generally any features like that are external to the product. But yes.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller

                      Generally any features like that are external to the product. But yes.

                      Patching is an external feature? Why is that? Because the live patching makes things convenient?

                      It just seems like they are adding a lot of features that are not in the "free" version.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                        It just seems like they are adding a lot of features that are not in the "free" version.

                        Adding or selling additionally? These are huge distinctions. Traditionally, all of the "paid for" features were not part of the XS product itself but external to it. Just like buying an extra component from a third party can add functionality to ESXi. Veeam adds features to ESXi not in the "free" version, and it doesn't seem weird, right?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          What seems weird is that open source project would be 100% open source for the entire thing. Including all features in the enterprise version.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                            What seems weird is that open source project would be 100% open source for the entire thing. Including all features in the enterprise version.

                            I'm unclear if you are confused or just explaining my point. Your wording sounds like you think it should all be free, but they you explain why it isn't.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              I'm on my phone and mis stated something.

                              It's bizarre to me that an open source project would have non open source add ons. But in just thinking about that statement I understand the fallacy.

                              But to confuse things even more calling the bundling of all of these add-ons an Enterprise Edition seems weird at best.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                But to confuse things even more calling the bundling of all of these add-ons an Enterprise Edition seems weird at best.

                                Might seem weird, but if you are a commercial entity that owns the NAME but not the product, you have little other choice. It's the only method that Citrix has to do this.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  They could call it Enterprise add-on pack.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                    They could call it Enterprise add-on pack.

                                    But that would hardly be leveraging their brand ownership, would it? Would not make any business sense given their strategy of branding.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                      @Dashrender said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                      They could call it Enterprise add-on pack.

                                      But that would hardly be leveraging their brand ownership, would it? Would not make any business sense given their strategy of branding.

                                      No, instead it just leads to total confusion by the non understanding Open Source people. I.e. if not for my participation in ML, I would think XS Enterprise was the only thing - and that XenServer is only a paid product from Citrix.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill
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                                        Right, like it's open source or it isn't.

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                                        • NerdyDadN
                                          NerdyDad
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                                          I'm seeing it more as free code but not "free beer". Similar to the way Red Hat vs. CentOS is licensed. Both are open source, but one is free as in "free beer" (CentOS), but the other is not (Red Hat).

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @NerdyDad
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                                            @NerdyDad said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                            I'm seeing it more as free code but not "free beer". Similar to the way Red Hat vs. CentOS is licensed. Both are open source, but one is free as in "free beer" (CentOS), but the other is not (Red Hat).

                                            I see it more as CentOS and CentOS Enterprise Edition.

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