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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
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      XOA

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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        @FATeknollogee said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

        XOA

        I probably should've noticed by the "Premium" word there as well 😛

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        • FATeknollogeeF
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          I think XOSAN beta will be available for any edition, don't know if that includes XO built from source.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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            @FATeknollogee said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

            I think XOSAN beta will be available for any edition, don't know if that includes XO built from source.

            It likely can be, have to take a look at the code.

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            • scottalanmillerS
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              Gonna fork this part in a minute, so just about to lock. Will be open in a few minutes in another thread.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                @FATeknollogee said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                I think XOSAN beta will be available for any edition, don't know if that includes XO built from source.

                It's not "built from source", see discussion here: https://mangolassi.it/topic/12700/when-is-something-built-from-source

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                • JaredBuschJ
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                  What is XOSAN? Their answer to Starwind vSAN thing?

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                  • DashrenderD
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                    Thanks for this thread. While I believe that I understood, and agree with what Scott and JB are saying, I didn't actually watch the install process of XO close enough to know if there was an actual compile process going on, therefore made an assumption based on the typical definition of "build from source" that source code was being downloaded and compiled.

                    Scott, other than dissecting the install script, how is a non dev person suppose to know if they are installing non compiled script versus needing to be compiled source versus pre compiled code?

                    I have compiled source before, both in Windows and nix systems, but have done it so little and so long ago that I did it by instructions, not memory or even complete understanding. Clearly I would never claim to know how to just hop to and build some source.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                      What is XOSAN? Their answer to Starwind vSAN thing?

                      Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                        Thanks for this thread.

                        Wrong thread. delete post and move it to correct thread.

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                        • DanpD
                          Danp @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                          Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

                          We should start another thread where we compare / contrast these different products.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Danp
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                            @Danp said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                            @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                            Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

                            We should start another thread where we compare / contrast these different products.

                            That would be worthwhile.

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                            • KOOLERK
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                              @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                              @JaredBusch said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                              What is XOSAN? Their answer to Starwind vSAN thing?

                              Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

                              XOSAN is a paid option? If yes - good luck, both HALizard and Starwind VSA for Xen are (will be?) free. if XOSAN is free - very cool!

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @KOOLER
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                                @KOOLER said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                @JaredBusch said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                What is XOSAN? Their answer to Starwind vSAN thing?

                                Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

                                XOSAN is a paid option? If yes - good luck, both HALizard and Starwind VSA for Xen are (will be?) free. if XOSAN is free - very cool!

                                Well it's still a very early release, and it's not available without going and installing it yourself.

                                Which I was working on figuring out today for anyone who's willing to go that route.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @KOOLER
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                                  @KOOLER said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                  @JaredBusch said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                  What is XOSAN? Their answer to Starwind vSAN thing?

                                  Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

                                  XOSAN is a paid option? If yes - good luck, both HALizard and Starwind VSA for Xen are (will be?) free. if XOSAN is free - very cool!

                                  And you're releasing StarWind VSAN for XenServer as a free option, that's awesome.

                                  I assume you'll recommend support, even of the software is free? (Which is only smart for consumers)

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
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                                    @Danp said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                    Yes, so everything is hosted within the same environment. No need to go out to StarWinds or HALizard.

                                    We should start another thread where we compare / contrast these different products.

                                    Good idea. HA-Lizard doesn't cover that same ground. It's DRBD in that instance.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
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                                      @KOOLER said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                      XOSAN is a paid option? If yes - good luck, both HALizard and Starwind VSA for Xen are (will be?) free. if XOSAN is free - very cool!

                                      I don't think one can compare XOA + XOSAN to Starwind VSA or HALizard.

                                      First, XOSAN is not available as a standalone product.
                                      Second, XOA + XOSAN offer a lot of things that Starwind & HAL don't. It doesn't make XOA/XOSAN better just different.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
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                                        @KOOLER the reason I say that support is only smart for consumers is that if software is free (open source) there doesn't have to be a massive investment in that purchase.

                                        But paying for support, because 99.999% of everyone is not an expert on said solution, really truly does need support.

                                        Even if it's only an hour a month. That times N is a very large customer base.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                          @FATeknollogee said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                          @KOOLER said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                          XOSAN is a paid option? If yes - good luck, both HALizard and Starwind VSA for Xen are (will be?) free. if XOSAN is free - very cool!

                                          I don't think one can compare XOA + XOSAN to Starwind VSA or HALizard.

                                          First, XOSAN is not available as a standalone product.
                                          Second, XOA + XOSAN offer a lot of things that Starwind & HAL don't. It doesn't make XOA/XOSAN better just different.

                                          XOA includes XOSAN by default, mostly because it's a very early release.

                                          XO can also include XOSAN, it's something I was working on figuring out today. But has the major issue of being completely unsupported. I'd doubt if @olivier and company would even answer any questions about it. And with just reason.

                                          It has to be supported by the people that developed it.

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                                          • DanpD
                                            Danp @KOOLER
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                                            @KOOLER said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                            XOSAN is a paid option?

                                            This hasn't been announced yet.

                                            @DustinB3403 said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                            Which I was working on figuring out today for anyone who's willing to go that route.

                                            I would suggest an XOA trial instead so that your testing is meaningful while XOSAN is in beta.

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