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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Does SCO Group really take top honours, when it was Microsoft funding them? It was well known that they were just a front for Ballmer at the time.

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        "And believe it or not, Azure is actually pretty nice. My experience is limited to a single client, but Azure has been stable"... apparently he's never been to an Azure conference. Stability is a key concern.

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        • KellyK
          Kelly
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          You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Kelly
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            @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

            You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

            LOL. Actually the article does point out that there is no Linux on Windows, it's just way down. He breaks it down that it is just GNU and a few other tools on top of Windows.

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            • scottalanmillerS
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              SQL Server on Linux is a really big deal that I've been excited about for a while. I rarely want to see a Windows server, but SQL Server is a really excellent product. Normal enterprise database teams struggle with SQL Server as a one off because they need to engage a different systems support team to work with it. And systems teams struggle with it because it is their only Windows database product.

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              • KellyK
                Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                  @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                  No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                  You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

                  But it is REALLY important. Calling the router just the firewall isn't "wrong", it's incomplete. Calling it Linux on Windows is absolutely wrong. In one case, it's accurate, in one it is not. It's incredibly important for everyone in IT to clearly now what an OS is and when they are using it 🙂

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Kelly
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                    @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                    You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                    Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                    🙂

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                    • KellyK
                      Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                      @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                      No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                      You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

                      But it is REALLY important. Calling the router just the firewall isn't "wrong", it's incomplete. Calling it Linux on Windows is absolutely wrong. In one case, it's accurate, in one it is not. It's incredibly important for everyone in IT to clearly now what an OS is and when they are using it 🙂

                      So would you call it BASH on Windows or Ubuntu on Windows?

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                      • KellyK
                        Kelly @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                        @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                        You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                        Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                        🙂

                        What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Kelly
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                          @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                          @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                          @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                          You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                          Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                          🙂

                          What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

                          I have mentioned that to him.

                          He argues the same way, but it just feels so different in person.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22
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                            I never had that impression of him honestly. He's always been very helpful and easy going in regards to me.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                              @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                              You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

                              But it is REALLY important. Calling the router just the firewall isn't "wrong", it's incomplete. Calling it Linux on Windows is absolutely wrong. In one case, it's accurate, in one it is not. It's incredibly important for everyone in IT to clearly now what an OS is and when they are using it 🙂

                              So would you call it BASH on Windows or Ubuntu on Windows?

                              There is an Ubuntu/Windows (the use of "on" is unclear, as it is not actually Ubuntu itself) and there is BASH on Ubuntu/WIndows. And there has always been a BASH that is actually on Windows, that is unrelated to this new one.

                              BASH from Microsoft runs ONLY on their Ubuntu container and doesn't interact with the main Windows system. But the only thing it does talk to is Windows in the container.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                                Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                                🙂

                                What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

                                LOL, it's true, I get that a lot.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                  @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                                  Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                                  🙂

                                  What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

                                  I have mentioned that to him.

                                  He argues the same way, but it just feels so different in person.

                                  Yeah, to me it's a consistent experience.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    LOL, the SAM Experience.

                                    It's the newest ride at Universal Studios.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                      I never had that impression of him honestly. He's always been very helpful and easy going in regards to me.

                                      I get that a lot, too. One person will see the same conversation as really aggressive, and the next doesn't see it at all. Of course, to me, it's just a normal conversation. This is how I interact with my wife, kids, my dad, etc.

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                                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                        I never had that impression of him honestly. He's always been very helpful and easy going in regards to me.

                                        I get that a lot, too. One person will see the same conversation as really aggressive, and the next doesn't see it at all. Of course, to me, it's just a normal conversation. This is how I interact with my wife, kids, my dad, etc.

                                        Well, context is extremely important to me. I'm sure I would be very negatively affected by seeing someone murdered yet I saw a lot of gruesome things in the operating room that didn't bother me because I knew the objective was to help.

                                        I know that your objective is to help me regardless of what you are saying or how you are saying it.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                          No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                            @Tim_G said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                            No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                                            0_1486745941006_Untitled.jpg

                                            That's subsystem for Linux (just Subsystem for UNIX renamed.) It's a set of services commonly used by Linux running on Windows. It's FOR Linux, but it's a Windows subsystem. 100% Windows, has been since it was first introduced like twenty years ago. That's where the NFS server, NIS server and such have traditionally been kept.

                                            It's the equivalent feature as Samba on Linux, in reverse. Just an application.

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