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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
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      One of the courses I took in college that was really useful was "learning for the future" where they showed how to keep on top of things and taught "learning for life" skills

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said in Always Teach to the Future:

        One of the courses I took in college that was really useful was "learning for the future" where they showed how to keep on top of things and taught "learning for life" skills

        We need to go back to teaching classes like that all throughout high school!

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        • PenguinWranglerP
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          @scottalanmiller I was a tech director at a K-12 school in rural northeast Missouri (2007-2009). The tech level of teachers was so pitiful that it is painful to talk about. You have teachers that have no idea how to use technology and they are teaching kids that will be graduating high school in the 2020s. They are literally teaching them the same way as I was taught back in the 1970/80/90s. Getting away with it because they are not "good" with technology. These people would be fired in a business setting because they couldn't find the print button.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in Always Teach to the Future:

            @MattSpeller said in Always Teach to the Future:

            One of the courses I took in college that was really useful was "learning for the future" where they showed how to keep on top of things and taught "learning for life" skills

            We need to go back to teaching classes like that all throughout high school!

            Yup, that's not something that should be waiting for college.

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            • PenguinWranglerP
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              My kids are amazed at the fact that I can just "figure out" stuff. I tell them that the most important thing they can learn is how to learn by yourself. You must develop logic skills, organization and reading skills. That will allow you to learn on your own and not be spoon fed. For tech people I think college is a waste of time.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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                @PenguinWrangler said in Always Teach to the Future:

                My kids Most adults I meet are amazed at the fact that I can just "figure out" stuff.

                There you go.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @PenguinWrangler
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                  @PenguinWrangler said in Always Teach to the Future:

                  For tech people I think college is a waste of time.

                  Depends on the kind of tech. There's stuff you should definitely learn in a classroom before you have any business being on a job site. I generally agree that fundamentally how higher education is taught could be improved greatly.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @PenguinWrangler
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                    @PenguinWrangler said in Always Teach to the Future:

                    My kids are amazed at the fact that I can just "figure out" stuff. I tell them that the most important thing they can learn is how to learn by yourself. You must develop logic skills, organization and reading skills. That will allow you to learn on your own and not be spoon fed. For tech people I think college is a waste of time.

                    This is ultimately how I wound up in IT... I just got good at troubleshooting problems, no matter what the OS or non-computer electronic device (yes, I have fixed the office coffee maker a time or two, as well as the electric heater for some relatives!)

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                    • PenguinWranglerP
                      PenguinWrangler @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller @dafyre I do have a degree. It is only so I can get an interview. Please don't take this as me being harsh either but there are other ways to learn IT and get skills other than a four year university. With the over inflated cost of a four year university I just don't see the value, don't even mention being a well rounded individual, I can become well rounded on my own and don't need that spoon fed to me either. I have used absolutely 0% of what was taught to me at school in my career in IT. Maybe the program I was in was absolute crap and has tainted my view, but this is just my opinion on going to a four year school for an IT career.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @PenguinWrangler
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                        @PenguinWrangler said in Always Teach to the Future:

                        @MattSpeller @dafyre I do have a degree. It is only so I can get an interview. Please don't take this as me being harsh either but there are other ways to learn IT and get skills other than a four year university. With the over inflated cost of a four year university I just don't see the value, don't even mention being a well rounded individual, I can become well rounded on my own and don't need that spoon fed to me either. I have used absolutely 0% of what was taught to me at school in my career in IT. Maybe the program I was in was absolute crap and has tainted my view, but this is just my opinion on going to a four year school for an IT career.

                        You share that opinion with several of us here. 🙂

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @PenguinWrangler
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                          @PenguinWrangler said in Always Teach to the Future:

                          @scottalanmiller I was a tech director at a K-12 school in rural northeast Missouri (2007-2009). The tech level of teachers was so pitiful that it is painful to talk about. You have teachers that have no idea how to use technology and they are teaching kids that will be graduating high school in the 2020s. They are literally teaching them the same way as I was taught back in the 1970/80/90s. Getting away with it because they are not "good" with technology. These people would be fired in a business setting because they couldn't find the print button.

                          OMG I wish people would get fired over not knowing where the print button is.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said in Always Teach to the Future:

                            @PenguinWrangler said in Always Teach to the Future:

                            For tech people I think college is a waste of time.

                            Depends on the kind of tech. There's stuff you should definitely learn in a classroom before you have any business being on a job site. I generally agree that fundamentally how higher education is taught could be improved greatly.

                            Doesn't mean college, though. Those are normally safety things. And classrooms teach very little. If it's risky, they should be certified. It's the testing that matters, not the classroom.

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