Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
Things like traffic info, deep packet inspection, and other visualization stuff isn't available from the CLI.
I do not think the unify line even does deep packet yet
If you have a USG - the spam inside the console sure makes you believe it does.
I have not purchased one yet and after helping you with the one you got I have no desire to purchase one or should I say even less than a little to no desire I previously had to purchase one
exactly - they really need to add more to the unifi controller interface - or whatever... that crazy issue where if you had a static IP and tried to use VPN it failed in a boot loop.. only through using a JSON file on the controller could you get around it, and even so it still wasn't fully the way you wanted it.
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
What additional features can be setup with just the AP? Anything cool/useful?
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@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
What additional features can be setup with just the AP? Anything cool/useful?
The USG does not give you any features at all it is just router. If you mean the unified controller I only use that I don't use just the Phone app so I do not know if the Phone app has limitations that the controller overcomes or if the phone can do everything the controller can do
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
What additional features can be setup with just the AP? Anything cool/useful?
The USG does not give you any features at all it is just router. If you mean the unified controller I only use that I don't use just the Phone app so I do not know if the Phone app has limitations that the controller overcomes or if the phone can do everything the controller can do
Sorry, I may have been unclear. Does the functionality of the controller software with an Access Point provide any cool / useful features.what more can the APs do than just have an SSID on them?
(home office)
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
What additional features can be setup with just the AP? Anything cool/useful?
The USG does not give you any features at all it is just router. If you mean the unified controller I only use that I don't use just the Phone app so I do not know if the Phone app has limitations that the controller overcomes or if the phone can do everything the controller can do
The phone app is really limited, at least the last time I tried it. And I couldn't even use it because you needed a new AP with the QR code and I didn't have one at the time. I tried the Android app, but the new iOS app might be better. This was back when it first came out also so a lot may have changed.
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@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
What additional features can be setup with just the AP? Anything cool/useful?
The USG does not give you any features at all it is just router. If you mean the unified controller I only use that I don't use just the Phone app so I do not know if the Phone app has limitations that the controller overcomes or if the phone can do everything the controller can do
Sorry, I may have been unclear. Does the functionality of the controller software with an Access Point provide any cool / useful features.what more can the APs do than just have an SSID on them?
(home office)
They're just APs but the controller allows you to do things like assigned tagged VLANs on different SSIDs.
Another plus is you can upgrade them directly from the controller.
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@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
What additional features can be setup with just the AP? Anything cool/useful?
The USG does not give you any features at all it is just router. If you mean the unified controller I only use that I don't use just the Phone app so I do not know if the Phone app has limitations that the controller overcomes or if the phone can do everything the controller can do
Sorry, I may have been unclear. Does the functionality of the controller software with an Access Point provide any cool / useful features.what more can the APs do than just have an SSID on them?
(home office)
With the controller live in running you can do guest network with no access to the main network sign in portal all that kind of stuff. Not needed specifically usually in home office but for someone like you who would also use it for learning/testing that's very useful
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This is what I meant by limited with the controller. This is pretty much all I can see with the controller and no USG. The new controller has a lot more, the VPN stuff never used to be in there.
This is the default settings that came with it. I've never even turned off the DHCP server because I'm not using that subnet.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I've never even turned off the DHCP server because I'm not using that subnet.
Actually that doesn't matter. If you had a USG, DHCP would be provided on that network with those addresses, as it's the USG that acts as the DHCP server, not the controller software.
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those settings are for the USG or a unify switch those have nothing to do with an AP directly
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That is actually something I very much dislike about the unify controller now. I have no way to disable all of that crap if I'm only going to be running access points.
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
That is actually something I very much dislike about the unify controller now. I have no way to disable all of that crap if I'm only going to be running access points.
Do they really effect the performance of the controller (system)?
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@JaredBusch Right. That's why I always assumed the USG was really limited. That is all I could find for network settings.
@Dashrender Ah ok. That makes sense
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@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
That is actually something I very much dislike about the unify controller now. I have no way to disable all of that crap if I'm only going to be running access points.
Do they really effect the performance of the controller (system)?
No, there's no effect to performance - but someone unfamiliar looking at it might think there is something going on when there isn't with all of those settings.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch Right. That's why I always assumed the USG was really limited. That is all I could find for network settings.
@Dashrender Ah ok. That makes sense
it was limited only via the GUI. If you created a JSON file on the controller in the correct location, you could do darn near anything a EdgeRouter can.
The GUI is finally catching up with the features.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@DustinB3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
That is actually something I very much dislike about the unify controller now. I have no way to disable all of that crap if I'm only going to be running access points.
Do they really effect the performance of the controller (system)?
No, there's no effect to performance - but someone unfamiliar looking at it might think there is something going on when there isn't with all of those settings.
That's what I was thinking.... I saw it on my controller here, and immediately disregarded it...
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch Right. That's why I always assumed the USG was really limited. That is all I could find for network settings.
@Dashrender Ah ok. That makes sense
it was limited only via the GUI. If you created a JSON file on the controller in the correct location, you could do darn near anything a EdgeRouter can.
The GUI is finally catching up with the features.
Ah ok. Ya that's mostly how I use mine anyway. Like I said, I've never used one so I'm running on assumptions.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch Right. That's why I always assumed the USG was really limited. That is all I could find for network settings.
@Dashrender Ah ok. That makes sense
it was limited only via the GUI. If you created a JSON file on the controller in the correct location, you could do darn near anything a EdgeRouter can.
The GUI is finally catching up with the features.
Ah ok. Ya that's mostly how I use mine anyway. Like I said, I've never used one so I'm running on assumptions.
I'm pretty sure you can actually fully control the APs through the CLI and JSON files. I think you can use the CLI to tell it where to get the JSON file (a none Unifi controller), but damn. .talk about pain.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch Right. That's why I always assumed the USG was really limited. That is all I could find for network settings.
@Dashrender Ah ok. That makes sense
it was limited only via the GUI. If you created a JSON file on the controller in the correct location, you could do darn near anything a EdgeRouter can.
The GUI is finally catching up with the features.
Ah ok. Ya that's mostly how I use mine anyway. Like I said, I've never used one so I'm running on assumptions.
I'm pretty sure you can actually fully control the APs through the CLI and JSON files. I think you can use the CLI to tell it where to get the JSON file (a none Unifi controller), but damn. .talk about pain.
I didn't realize you could use the config files for the APs. I've only used the busybox shell for joining the controller. Makes sense that it would use them though.
