Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
An non centrally controlled AP seems more consumer class to me. I'm sure there are other enterprise vendors who have them, but it seems to be going backwards.
Though I suppose since the EdgeMax switches are supposed to be managed by SNMP, the AP could be the same.
None of the EdgeMax stuff has a central controller. I don't think that makes it consumer class.
That's why I mentioned Scott's mention of SNMP for management of them.
IMO, needing to set up a full VM or installing a large program on your Windows machine, just so you can set configs in an AP isn't necessarily moving forward either.
You already have this, it's the phone app.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
An non centrally controlled AP seems more consumer class to me. I'm sure there are other enterprise vendors who have them, but it seems to be going backwards.
Though I suppose since the EdgeMax switches are supposed to be managed by SNMP, the AP could be the same.
None of the EdgeMax stuff has a central controller. I don't think that makes it consumer class. Even if they just added the EdgeOS interface and OS to the AP. That would make it more expensive, but you could manage it directly from the AP.
IMO, needing to set up a full VM or installing a large program on your Windows machine, just so you can set configs in an AP isn't necessarily moving forward either.
They do, though, they have SNMP as their central controller. They are designed to fit into a larger, multi-vendor, third party central controller scheme.
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@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
An non centrally controlled AP seems more consumer class to me. I'm sure there are other enterprise vendors who have them, but it seems to be going backwards.
Though I suppose since the EdgeMax switches are supposed to be managed by SNMP, the AP could be the same.
None of the EdgeMax stuff has a central controller. I don't think that makes it consumer class. Even if they just added the EdgeOS interface and OS to the AP. That would make it more expensive, but you could manage it directly from the AP.
IMO, needing to set up a full VM or installing a large program on your Windows machine, just so you can set configs in an AP isn't necessarily moving forward either.
They do, though, they have SNMP as their central controller. They are designed to fit into a larger, multi-vendor, third party central controller scheme.
Then if you have a Zabbix server you can monitor stuff using snmp
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@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
They do, though, they have SNMP as their central controller.
Sorry, meant an application created by them as a controller.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
You already have this, it's the phone app.
Not what I mean. I mean Needing another device to manage another device isn't moving forward. I don't need anything else to manage an EdgeSwitch or EdgeRouter (other than a browser or SSH). I would need either their controller software or the phone app to manage the APs.
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I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
Things like traffic info, deep packet inspection, and other visualization stuff isn't available from the CLI.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
Things like traffic info, deep packet inspection, and other visualization stuff isn't available from the CLI.
I do not think the unify line even does deep packet yet
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
Things like traffic info, deep packet inspection, and other visualization stuff isn't available from the CLI.
I do not think the unify line even does deep packet yet
If you have a USG - the spam inside the console sure makes you believe it does.
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
It has 900% more than the Unifi controller interface has.
The unify controller does have a lot of information if you do everything unify
Ah ok. I'll stop pretending like I know what's going on with it. I only have APs so I never see the other parts of it. I'm just basing that off of the VLAN info and networking info from the controller parts I use. They looked really limited.
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
Things like traffic info, deep packet inspection, and other visualization stuff isn't available from the CLI.
I do not think the unify line even does deep packet yet
If you have a USG - the spam inside the console sure makes you believe it does.
I have not purchased one yet and after helping you with the one you got I have no desire to purchase one or should I say even less than a little to no desire I previously had to purchase one
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@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@JaredBusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway - Is there a software version:
I this this as a double edged sword. If you're in a setup that's so small as to only need one or two - the then phone app is probably ample, but if you have more than a 2, then moving to a controller makes complete sense to me.
But I can see you point as well. You have an ER-X and a single AP, you want to just have an easy time managing them both from CLI.
Right. It's not a big deal, just something that would be nice to have. I only have 2 APs at home but I have an ERL and EdgeSwitch.
I could be the only one, but I like the EdgeOS interface a lot.
the GUI or the CLI?
GUI, CLI is the same I think (Never used a USG, the cli on the APs is really limited and not the same).
yeah the EdgeOS GUI is OK. I don't have any issues with it, until I need something it can't do.
What? You have no issues with it until you need something that it cannot do. Umm,wooden that normally be the case with anything
The point I was driving at - is why would someone like @stacksofplates even both considering he loves CLI normally to use the GUI when it can't do everything - that is all.
Things like traffic info, deep packet inspection, and other visualization stuff isn't available from the CLI.
I do not think the unify line even does deep packet yet
If you have a USG - the spam inside the console sure makes you believe it does.
I have not purchased one yet and after helping you with the one you got I have no desire to purchase one or should I say even less than a little to no desire I previously had to purchase one
exactly - they really need to add more to the unifi controller interface - or whatever... that crazy issue where if you had a static IP and tried to use VPN it failed in a boot loop.. only through using a JSON file on the controller could you get around it, and even so it still wasn't fully the way you wanted it.
