Solved CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?
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@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
You always state proximates for other people when I'm trying to find goals.
You always use words people have to look up.
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@aaronstuder said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Webmin
http://webmin.com/I recommend Webmin as well. It makes administration of Linux a lot simpler and faster for typical administrative tasks. Especially if you aren't efficient with bash, and don't have time to spend hours on google before every task you want to perform, that you don't remember the commands for.
It's still faster and more efficient to Putty in (using SSH) and do things that way. But I understand that may not be for everyone, especially those who are specifically looking for GUI options.
I don't care what others say about it, I just know that it works, and works well, makes things tons easier, and it has never messed anything up. Even when I install it on ancient versions of Linux, it still performs well. The worst thing I have come across when installing Webmin, is I had to disable https (once)... but that case was a minor issue as it was internally protected anyways.
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@openit said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Hi All,
I required to run a file server to have IT stuff, ISO files repository for XenServer and few other requirements.
So, I was thinking of FreeNAS vs CentOS Samba server, I believe IT pros around here will suggest CentOS option, so I have shortlisted to CentOS.
This CentOS server is going to be run on XS 7.
Now, I am for GUI package to setup on CentOS 7 to manage easily, do you know one which is easier and stable ? I am not willing to play with Terminal as of now.
I know Webmin, not used much, I know it have Samba things to manage, but I was thinking of only File Server manager.
Thanks for suggestions
Learn the terminal. Webmin isn't always going to be an option and neither will a GUI. This reminds me of @scottalanmiller's
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@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
Oh boy.
Here comes the CLI fanboys to take you away...
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
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@BRRABill said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Here comes the CLI fanboys to take you away...
We call them "system administrators".
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@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
To me its a matter of resource management but I'm not over here trying to change your mind either
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@wirestyle22 said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
To me its a matter of resource management but I'm not over here trying to change your mind either
You'd be literally the only one not trying to change my mind.
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@wirestyle22 said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
To me its a matter of resource management but I'm not over here trying to change your mind either
You'd be literally the only one not trying to change my mind.
It's the nihilist in me. none of this matters anyway
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@wirestyle22 said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
To me its a matter of resource management but I'm not over here trying to change your mind either
You'd be literally the only one not trying to change my mind.
The only thing I wish you would change your mind on was to not give me all your money
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@JaredBusch said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@wirestyle22 said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
To me its a matter of resource management but I'm not over here trying to change your mind either
You'd be literally the only one not trying to change my mind.
The only thing I wish you would change your mind on was to not give me all your money
I'd offer you all the money in my left pocket. *checks left pocket*
Yeah, that wouldn't help much... *holds out pocket lint* -
@JaredBusch said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@wirestyle22 said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
To me its a matter of resource management but I'm not over here trying to change your mind either
You'd be literally the only one not trying to change my mind.
The only thing I wish you would change your mind on was to not give me all your money
Don't you try to unuse your not double negative on me!
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
GUI is the past, CMD is the future. GUI was an experiment in the 1990s and it went poorly. Microsoft has made it clear that even in the Windows world, GUI is legacy. And with DevOps, the drop off of GUI is rapid.
And yet in an SMB windows environment, I can accomplish literally everything I need to do and then some via GUI. Funny how that works, eh? Because the bottom line is not how you think I should do it, but how I actually accomplish daily, weekly, monthly tasks without CLI. GUIs work 110% for the stuff I've ever had to administer (insert SAM bashing everything I've ever done here to prove that all the world needs to use CLI all the time always), and the lack of possibility that a simple typo can ruin a day's work, I'll keep my GUI and continue having an easy, well paid job, thanks. Different strokes for different mafackas. In the immortal words of Peter Lorre, "you do it your way, and I'll do it mine".
I disagree. GUI is not "scriptable" in any way, so the only thing you can do is learning procedures and apply that point-and-click algorithm like a robot. I won't call it "do a sysadmin task", sorry.
In addition, there is a hard limit in what you can do in a defined amount of time because of the intrinsic click/wait ratio of your procedures (and of your brain, of course). Of course, there is also a limit in your minimum error ratio following the procedures, because even if you do only one error every 10k clicks, you will have 100 errors every million of clicks… I think that doing gui-based sysadministration require ~2k clicks per full working days.
You can throw all those limits if you simply script a procedure. The error ratio of a correct script is ZERO, and you can run it as fast as your machine (and not your brain-hand system) can. Machines today are VERY fast.
Scripted procedures are the building blocks used to build great services, and it's not an opinion or something that some of us say because we are all biased in certain way.It's automation, baby!
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and we're back to the 2% needed discussion.
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@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
No, you are still living in the past.
The future is not even staring at the screen, the future is write a piece of software-procedure once and being able to rebuild a system/correct errors/etc in a completely non-interactive way forever.
The future is being architect drinking mojito in a beach, not click-slaves in a cold rack room.
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@Francesco-Provino said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@RojoLoco said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
@scottalanmiller said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
Why do you want a GUI? What's the end goal?
I'm guessing his goal is to not have to learn CLI commands.
I'm the captain of that vessel... it's the 21st century, why in the hell would I restrict myself to needing to type letters at a computing system to make it go? Are we cavemen, dragging our knuckles toward the black screen with archaic green letters to type cryptic text commands when GUIs have existed for a couple of decades now? I thought we lived in the future.
No, you are still living in the past.
The future is not even staring at the screen, the future is write a piece of software-procedure once and being able to rebuild a system/correct errors/etc in a completely non-interactive way forever.
The future is being architect drinking mojito in a beach, not click-slaves in a cold rack room.
Actually, if I had to script / CLI everything, I would have zero free time because all my time would be spent poring over scripts and commands to find where the typo is that is fucking the whole thing up. Besides, I have almost no tasks that I do so often that I feel the need to have some script to run it. So speak only for yourself in that regard, not everyone does things like you do, not everyone's job is like yours. I have lots of free time, despite using GUIs.... hmmm, your idea of impossible came true!!!
The future is retirement, drinking a mojito on a beach, with no office to call or report to. Your dream of still working in the future saddens me. What fun would travel be if you had systems to think about? (none, it would be zero fun).
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@Dashrender said in CentOS 7 File Server (samba). Do you know easy GUI to manage ?:
and we're back to the 2% needed discussion.
True. The future is higher and higher IT density.
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Nothing against Tojo, but he and I are the old timers... MSP, ITSPs doing all the work remotely is the cheaper future.
Though as long as there are users breaking things a bench tech will always be needed to solve the user issues.
