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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis @Dashrender
      last edited by Mike Davis

      @Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

      WOW - they didn't need a single patch since 2015. I take it then that the computers don't access the internet?

      I think the Server 2003 proxy was keeping them safe.... 😉

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
        last edited by

        @Mike-Davis About as safe as an ostrich with its head in the ground? (which they don't do... but whatever)

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          I would explain, if he's asking maybe he really doesn't understand. Maybe he really doesn't get IT at all and doesn't realize that he needs to learn about it and talk to IT pros and not just "work on computers" on his own. There is every chance that he's just some bench guy working on his own that has no IT experience. Most MSPs are like that.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22
            last edited by

            It's not up to you to explain it to him, it's up to the business themselves.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

              It's not up to you to explain it to him, it's up to the business themselves.

              That's very true. You didn't fire him.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by

                Document EVERYTHING. Pictures if allowed. Then explain away. If I was a business owner paying for things I was not receiving and being intentionally deceived, I would want to know asap so I could take legal action if needed, and to get lost money back to hire someone to do it right.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @Tim_G But he isn't the business owner in this case. You don't ask the person who was hired in your place why you were fired, you ask the people who hired you.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @wirestyle22
                    last edited by

                    @wirestyle22 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                    @Tim_G But he isn't the business owner in this case. You don't ask the person who was hired in your place why you were fired, you ask the people who hired you.

                    Oh I misread. I thought the owner wanted to know what was going on.

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                    • NetworkNerdN
                      NetworkNerd
                      last edited by NetworkNerd

                      I can see everyone's point who has commented here thus far. It makes me wonder, however, if there is some leagacy software on that network that is the supposed life blood of the organization which management decided not to pay to upgrade to a newer version. I'm not saying everything the old MSP did was what should have been done. It's just a general curiosity.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @NetworkNerd
                        last edited by

                        @NetworkNerd Sadly that has been a common theme in every place I've ever worked.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ
                          last edited by

                          If they are looking for a security analysis or Pen Test let me know. It sounds like they will need one in a few months once they try to get everything up to par.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @IRJ
                            last edited by

                            @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                            If they are looking for a security analysis or Pen Test let me know. It sounds like they will need one in a few months once they try to get everything up to par.

                            *cough* shameless plug *cough*

                            😄

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                              @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                              If they are looking for a security analysis or Pen Test let me know. It sounds like they will need one in a few months once they try to get everything up to par.

                              *cough* shameless plug *cough*

                              😄

                              Lol.Obviously they aren't ready for one yet, they have a ton of patching to do first after an internal assessment.

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis
                                last edited by

                                Well the Ubiquiti is in place now and the Server 2003 box is no longer their firewall, so that's a huge step in the right direction.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @Mike Davis
                                  last edited by

                                  @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                  Well the Ubiquiti is in place now and the Server 2003 box is no longer their firewall, so that's a huge step in the right direction.

                                  Finally get the admin credentials, etc?

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                                  • Mike DavisM
                                    Mike Davis
                                    last edited by

                                    Initiating the request for the internet domain name transfer now...

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      Good luck!

                                      It would be pretty neat if you documented the whole process. This is the kind of stuff we see on Spiceworks everyday

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                        Good luck!

                                        It would be pretty neat if you documented the whole process. This is the kind of stuff we see on Spiceworks everyday

                                        You mean a list of the stuff that was wrong and how I fixed it?

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @Mike Davis
                                          last edited by

                                          @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                          @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                          Good luck!

                                          It would be pretty neat if you documented the whole process. This is the kind of stuff we see on Spiceworks everyday

                                          You mean a list of the stuff that was wrong and how I fixed it?

                                          #mangocon2017

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                                          • ntozierN
                                            ntozier
                                            last edited by

                                            Honestly if it's as bad as you are saying it is. I would compose a list. I would document the whole thing with screen shots (and pictures) and I would hand it all to your boss and tell him to consult his lawyer as to whether or not they are going to sue him... He obviously wasn't providing them with what he was billing them for. Of course wait until you got the domain transferred. Then you can tell him that you aren't allowed to speak to him, and that all communications should be routed through "name of lawfirm here".

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