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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

      @travisdh1 said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

      Uhm, installed the OS AND enabled Hyper-V role, or installed just Hyper-V roll during installation? Two very different things according to the licensing.

      No it is not. There is only one server OS. Server 2016. You add roles as needed.

      There is only the OS and roles on the OS. The only licensing issue here would be to ensure that there are no roles other than Hyper-V enabled.

      Enabling or disabling the GUI is not adding a role.

      You always only install the OS and enable the roles you want.

      This is how MS Server has worked forever.

      Yes, but installing any role other than Hyper-V is what causes the licensing issue. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.

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        dr.funkenstein @black3dynamite
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        @black3dynamite

        @black3dynamite said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

        @dr.funkenstein

        In response to converting from Desktop Experience to Core. You will have to do a fresh install.

        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/get-started/getting-started-with-server-with-desktop-experience

        "Unlike some previous releases of Windows Server, you cannot convert between Server Core and Server with Desktop Experience after installation. If you install Server with Desktop Experience and later decide to use Server Core, you should do a fresh installation."

        Major... major bummer !!

        Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @dr.funkenstein
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          @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

          Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

          What's different about it from Win 10?

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            dr.funkenstein @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

            @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

            Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

            What's different about it from Win 10?

            The fact that it's not Windows 10 ... It is Windows SERVER 2016

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @dr.funkenstein
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              @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

              @Dashrender said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

              @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

              Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

              What's different about it from Win 10?

              The fact that is not Windows 10 ... It is Windows SERVER 2016

              Win 2012 R2 is like Win 8.1, so what makes this so much worse? I guess I have to see how the tools are laid out. Though one thing all us Windows admins have to get used to is MS is moving more and more directly to the CLI instead of the GUI.

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                dr.funkenstein @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender

                Yes, 2012 looks like 8.1, but it still did not provide a full-fledged desktop experience (Themes n all), out of the box... 2016 does that, on the other hand ... Why not have a minimal GUI just for servers, without the bells and whistles ..

                I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @dr.funkenstein
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                  @dr.funkenstein You were told to use a device on site. Most likely you are running into simple time out issues over the VPN link. I use various MMC tools (mostly Hyper-V manager) across a VPN all the time and have no issues.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @dr.funkenstein
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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dr.funkenstein
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                      @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                      @black3dynamite

                      @black3dynamite said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                      @dr.funkenstein

                      In response to converting from Desktop Experience to Core. You will have to do a fresh install.

                      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/get-started/getting-started-with-server-with-desktop-experience

                      "Unlike some previous releases of Windows Server, you cannot convert between Server Core and Server with Desktop Experience after installation. If you install Server with Desktop Experience and later decide to use Server Core, you should do a fresh installation."

                      Major... major bummer !!

                      So install Server Core only and then add the feature afterwards. Any feature added afterwards is supposed to be removable.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dr.funkenstein
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                        @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                        @Dashrender

                        Yes, 2012 looks like 8.1, but it still did not provide a full-fledged desktop experience (Themes n all), out of the box... 2016 does that, on the other hand ... Why not have a minimal GUI just for servers, without the bells and whistles ..

                        Because you should not be running a GUI at all. Spending time and money to support people using the product in that way is not in MIcrosoft's interest and not really in yours, either.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dr.funkenstein
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                          @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                          I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

                          Why are you doing things over a VPN? Stop doing that, that's likely your problem.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                            @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                            I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

                            Why are you doing things over a VPN? Stop doing that, that's likely your problem.

                            Even better, this sounds like a MSP office he is working from, so they probably have all these VPN connections to various clients open.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                              @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                              I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

                              Why are you doing things over a VPN? Stop doing that, that's likely your problem.

                              Even better, this sounds like a MSP office he is working from, so they probably have all these VPN connections to various clients open.

                              That's super scary, MSPs using VPNs is how malware is going to suddenly take over the world. Cross contamination all over the place.

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