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    WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only

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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m
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      Does anyone know if you have to use the Unifi controller with the Unifi Switch 8 (model US‑8‑150W) or can you access it directly?

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn @wrx7m
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        @wrx7m If it is the unifi line, it will need the controller.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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          @brianlittlejohn said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

          @wrx7m If it is the unifi line, it will need the controller.

          Correct you'll need a controller - OK technically it can be done, but it's really a pain and not what's intended.

          If you want no controller, then look at a EdgeSwitch instead.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            Are you needing a switch or a router. I think you need to stop and think about design again.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

              Are you needing a switch or a router. I think you need to stop and think about design again.

              If you're talking to me - I want a router because I want to keep the remote people out of my network for things they don't need access to.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Dashrender
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @Dashrender to the OP

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch - I have a router so I don't need a second one. The question was more in how deal with the ISP's change from a fiber to copper hand-off to fiber only. I could add a module with SFP ports to allow my router to deal with the fiber directly, but this would be more expensive and require the most work in terms of running fiber and NAT/ACL reconfiguration. The media converter was proposed by me but it seems that a switch with SFP and RJ45 ports makes the most sense.

                  I just install a small switch with a transceiver in the MPOE for the SC connectors coming from the ISP and use my existing cabling to and router interface in the server room.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @wrx7m
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                    @wrx7m said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

                    switch with SFP and RJ45 ports makes the most sense.

                    This is a media convertor 😉

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender True, but a media converter is specifically for this purpose, whereas a switch would have more ports and functionality. 🙂

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        And if you need those things, great - but you didn't before, not sure if you do now?

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender - I don't think so. I can just do a small switch and be done with it. The edge switch line are a little big but I could probably squeeze it on the board in the MPOE if they don't change much of anything in there but I might be better off with that Adtran Netvanta 1531 or similar size and feature set.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            Does the feature set matter? You're only using this device as a media convertor. No translations or anything.. just convert fiber to copper.

                            If not for the cheapness of the dedicated convertors you looked at earlier, they should do the job just fine - and really probably would be fine. Depending on cost, you might just buy 2-3 of them and have them on the self for when/if it fails, swap a new one in and be done in 2 mins or less.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @Dashrender
                              last edited by wrx7m

                              @Dashrender - The feature set really doesn't matter in this case unless I need to specify the speed/duplex mode but I was mostly just saying that there was a difference, not that it mattered much to me. I am concerned with the reliability factor and at the prices for those switches, it is still not nearly as much as I was planning on spending with the direct integration with my Sophos.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                Sounds like you have lots of options then 🙂

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  @wrx7m I have not purchased an ER-X SFP yet, but if the SFP is on the swithc chip, I would go that route. I mean for $60 + the SFP module you can have a lot of spares.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

                                    @wrx7m I have not purchased an ER-X SFP yet, but if the SFP is on the swithc chip, I would go that route. I mean for $60 + the SFP module you can have a lot of spares.

                                    Yep, it can
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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

                                      I mean for $60 + the SFP module you can have a lot of spares.

                                      Best price I could find (fast) was $73 prime on Amazon, plus SFP.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

                                        @JaredBusch said in WAN Link - Fiber to Copper Changing to Fiber Only:

                                        @wrx7m I have not purchased an ER-X SFP yet, but if the SFP is on the swithc chip, I would go that route. I mean for $60 + the SFP module you can have a lot of spares.

                                        Yep, it can
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                                        Awesome.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          I haven't been able to beat the price on SFPs direct from Unifi

                                          $17 for two - just damn!!! that's awesome!

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            While it was a bit more on UBNT for the ER-X SFP vs Amazon, I just ordered both together from them.

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