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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

      @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

      @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

      @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

      @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

      @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

      This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

      LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

      I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

      I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

      If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

      For music sure.

      Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

        This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

        LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

        I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

        I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

        If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

        For music sure.

        Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

        the problem with that is that most media have a dedicated center channel for dialog. Without that dialog can get muddled or lost.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

          This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

          LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

          I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

          I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

          If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

          For music sure.

          Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

          the problem with that is that most media have a dedicated center channel for dialog. Without that dialog can get muddled or lost.

          Then your system is handling it wrong. Anything that is sent to the center channel sounds better when sent to the R and L channels equally. Literally, the center channel cannot improve the sound over stereo, it's not possible as you have no center ear. All the center channel does is break your perfect sound experience and risk colouration and cause reflection interference. In all seriousness, audio physics makes it impossible for a center channel to improve the sound quality.

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          • Mike RalstonM
            Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller You're absolutely correct, but, the problem is with the format and the way it's handled. I believe that some forms of BluRay and Digital Downloads have it hardcoded that the dialogue is supposed to be sent to the center channel, which makes it muddled and kind of sounds like you put a box over the speaker if you remove that center channel, though, there are ways around this.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

              This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

              LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

              I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

              I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

              If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

              For music sure.

              Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

              the problem with that is that most media have a dedicated center channel for dialog. Without that dialog can get muddled or lost.

              Then your system is handling it wrong. Anything that is sent to the center channel sounds better when sent to the R and L channels equally. Literally, the center channel cannot improve the sound over stereo, it's not possible as you have no center ear. All the center channel does is break your perfect sound experience and risk colouration and cause reflection interference. In all seriousness, audio physics makes it impossible for a center channel to improve the sound quality.

              well, then perhaps I have to find a way to turn off the center channel when using my receiver.. because when the center is simply unplugged, you can barely hear the dialog.

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

                LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

                I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

                I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

                If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

                For music sure.

                Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

                the problem with that is that most media have a dedicated center channel for dialog. Without that dialog can get muddled or lost.

                Then your system is handling it wrong. Anything that is sent to the center channel sounds better when sent to the R and L channels equally. Literally, the center channel cannot improve the sound over stereo, it's not possible as you have no center ear. All the center channel does is break your perfect sound experience and risk colouration and cause reflection interference. In all seriousness, audio physics makes it impossible for a center channel to improve the sound quality.

                well, then perhaps I have to find a way to turn off the center channel when using my receiver.. because when the center is simply unplugged, you can barely hear the dialog.

                If you go into the receiver and tell it there is no center channel speaker it will output it to both L&R

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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                  @Mike-Ralston said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                  @scottalanmiller You're absolutely correct, but, the problem is with the format and the way it's handled. I believe that some forms of BluRay and Digital Downloads have it hardcoded that the dialogue is supposed to be sent to the center channel, which makes it muddled and kind of sounds like you put a box over the speaker if you remove that center channel, though, there are ways around this.

                  It's coded there, but that's digitally decoded. Any decoder can decide to send that to the center channel or to the stereo channels. There is no mudding from the encoding process. It's simply a standard mono channel like any other. Mono is muddy.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                    This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

                    LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

                    I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

                    I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

                    If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

                    For music sure.

                    Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

                    the problem with that is that most media have a dedicated center channel for dialog. Without that dialog can get muddled or lost.

                    Then your system is handling it wrong. Anything that is sent to the center channel sounds better when sent to the R and L channels equally. Literally, the center channel cannot improve the sound over stereo, it's not possible as you have no center ear. All the center channel does is break your perfect sound experience and risk colouration and cause reflection interference. In all seriousness, audio physics makes it impossible for a center channel to improve the sound quality.

                    well, then perhaps I have to find a way to turn off the center channel when using my receiver.. because when the center is simply unplugged, you can barely hear the dialog.

                    Um.... that should be pretty obvious why that doesn't work. Misconfiguring your system to be a broken 5.1 is not the same as using a 4.0. That's like saying that mono only has half the sound because you unplugged the left speaker. Half of stereo and mono are not the same. 2.0 or 4.1 (in this case) and borked 5.1 are different things.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                      @brianlittlejohn said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @travisdh1 said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @Dashrender said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      @FiyaFly said in Best speakers for School Epson projector:

                      This seems to be incredibly subjective. This really depends on HOW much better, and what they're willing to pay for. I mean, I know an audiophile who can design, build, and setup the entire room with properly proportioned surround sound with speakers that have a "true to sound" quality for several thousand, but something tells me that isn't what you're looking for.

                      LOL... audiophile and surround sound don't go together 😉

                      I don't think I agree with that - but I'd have to check definitions to be sure... If you're a movie audiophile... I'd think you'd want surround more.. if you're a music audiophile.. then heck.. mono might be best.. but stereo is the norm.

                      I'd agree with @scottalanmiller on this one. I've got a 5.1 at home that sounds great. Still, any surround sound system has to modify the original signal.

                      If you don't have a screen to blast through, drop that center channel and your sound quality instantly improves. That center channel thing is the bane of sound quality.

                      For music sure.

                      Nope, you missed the point. It's better, period.

                      the problem with that is that most media have a dedicated center channel for dialog. Without that dialog can get muddled or lost.

                      Then your system is handling it wrong. Anything that is sent to the center channel sounds better when sent to the R and L channels equally. Literally, the center channel cannot improve the sound over stereo, it's not possible as you have no center ear. All the center channel does is break your perfect sound experience and risk colouration and cause reflection interference. In all seriousness, audio physics makes it impossible for a center channel to improve the sound quality.

                      well, then perhaps I have to find a way to turn off the center channel when using my receiver.. because when the center is simply unplugged, you can barely hear the dialog.

                      If you go into the receiver and tell it there is no center channel speaker it will output it to both L&R

                      And then the sound improves because you don't have this weird sound source floating in the middle of your soundstage disconnected from the stage itself.

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