Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com
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I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
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@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
Yeah, and with that much cpu/ram for only 3 drives per node? Using blade servers, but sound like they think it's not blade servers in the document. Not doing math in my head well at the moment, is it possible a single blade chassis going down could take the entire cluster down?
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@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
Good point as well.
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@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
Yeah, and with that much cpu/ram for only 3 drives per node? Using blade servers, but sound like they think it's not blade servers in the document. Not doing math in my head well at the moment, is it possible a single blade chassis going down could take the entire cluster down?
Could yeah, depending on a lot of things, but losing 8-16 nodes at a single go can easily kill a cluster.
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@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
Yeah, and with that much cpu/ram for only 3 drives per node? Using blade servers, but sound like they think it's not blade servers in the document. Not doing math in my head well at the moment, is it possible a single blade chassis going down could take the entire cluster down?
Could yeah, depending on a lot of things, but losing 8-16 nodes at a single go can easily kill a cluster.
Well, at least these are only 2U, 4 node boxes, but still, yuck.
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@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
Yeah, and with that much cpu/ram for only 3 drives per node? Using blade servers, but sound like they think it's not blade servers in the document. Not doing math in my head well at the moment, is it possible a single blade chassis going down could take the entire cluster down?
Could yeah, depending on a lot of things, but losing 8-16 nodes at a single go can easily kill a cluster.
Well, at least these are only 2U, 4 node boxes, but still, yuck.
Like Dell FX?
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GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
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@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
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@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
You can be the best software engineer and know nothing about IT.
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@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
I also don't get why the jump from 96 TB to over 400. The whole point of distributed file systems is linear growth. If you don't have that much data right now, why are you paying for that much?
Yeah, and with that much cpu/ram for only 3 drives per node? Using blade servers, but sound like they think it's not blade servers in the document. Not doing math in my head well at the moment, is it possible a single blade chassis going down could take the entire cluster down?
Could yeah, depending on a lot of things, but losing 8-16 nodes at a single go can easily kill a cluster.
Well, at least these are only 2U, 4 node boxes, but still, yuck.
Like Dell FX?
Not quite, they're using Supermicro. The only shared piece in the chassis is the power supply. 3 3.5" drive bays per node. They're also talking about having a DOM for the OS and PCIE storage card in each. I'm not familiar with the Dell FX line, so it could be the same sort of thing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
You can be the best software engineer and know nothing about IT.
Github seems insistent on proving this for you in grand scale and fashion.
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@Ambarishrh said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
Gitlab leaving cloud and getting their own servers.
https://about.gitlab.com/2016/12/11/proposed-server-purchase-for-gitlab-com/And... disaster: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/01/gitlab_data_loss/
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@mlnews said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@Ambarishrh said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
Gitlab leaving cloud and getting their own servers.
https://about.gitlab.com/2016/12/11/proposed-server-purchase-for-gitlab-com/And... disaster: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/01/gitlab_data_loss/
This one was operator error combined with untested backups...
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@dafyre said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@mlnews said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@Ambarishrh said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
Gitlab leaving cloud and getting their own servers.
https://about.gitlab.com/2016/12/11/proposed-server-purchase-for-gitlab-com/And... disaster: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/01/gitlab_data_loss/
This one was operator error combined with untested backups...
Yup, pretty much exactly what you would expect from a company with the kind of hubris that they showed when they went physical claiming that their people were better than those at the cloud hosts.
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@travisdh1 said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
You can be the best software engineer and know nothing about IT.
Github seems insistent on proving this for you in grand scale and fashion.
And... proven
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@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
LOL, you called that one!
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@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
LOL, you called that one!
From what I have been able to gather, it was issues and bug tracking stuff.
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@dafyre said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
LOL, you called that one!
From what I have been able to gather, it was issues and bug tracking stuff.
Thankfully the GIT protocol keeps distributed copies. So chances are, most people have retained the most important data no matter what happens to GitLab.
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@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@dafyre said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
LOL, you called that one!
From what I have been able to gather, it was issues and bug tracking stuff.
Thankfully the GIT protocol keeps distributed copies. So chances are, most people have retained the most important data no matter what happens to GitLab.
No Git Repos were affected, only the bug tracking and issues was the last thing I heard.
Did they lose the repos too?
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@dafyre said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@dafyre said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@stacksofplates said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Proposed server purchase for GitLab.com:
GitLab is sounding like a very silly endeavor, indeed.
Ya it sucks because I use their stuff. Hopefully they don't lose everything.
LOL, you called that one!
From what I have been able to gather, it was issues and bug tracking stuff.
Thankfully the GIT protocol keeps distributed copies. So chances are, most people have retained the most important data no matter what happens to GitLab.
No Git Repos were affected, only the bug tracking and issues was the last thing I heard.
Did they lose the repos too?
The ENTIRE company is offline right now. No one knows for sure what is going on. Their main webpage is no longer up, it's just an outage notification. So if they did or did not "lose" the repos, access to them is lost. So right at the moment, yes, the repos are lost and any companies relying on them would be needing to work from local GIT copies. And there is little chance that GitLab is coming back from this, this isn't a "catastrophic event" for them, this appears to be how they designed their IT department to function. No one in their right minds will use their services after this. I can only imagine all of their real customers have been migrating all day via their local repos. GitHub probably picked up nearly everyone in one fell swoop.
