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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Just curious, what do you gain by having 10Gb at home? Is this just so you can live fail over something in test? Even at $299, plus $200 for the cables, assuming you only need two, $500 is not a small amount for a home lab. Sure 1 Gb takes 10 times longer to prove your test, but this just a lab... I'm wondering what I'm missing?

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

        Just curious, what do you gain by having 10Gb at home? Is this just so you can live fail over something in test? Even at $299, plus $200 for the cables, assuming you only need two, $500 is not a small amount for a home lab. Sure 1 Gb takes 10 times longer to prove your test, but this just a lab... I'm wondering what I'm missing?

        Maybe he just wants the experience with 10g?

        I'd do it if I had the money (and wife approval, ha ha).

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        • NashBrydgesN
          NashBrydges @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

          @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

          @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

          How much are the sfp+ you need for it?

          I've been using DAC cables with my EdgeMax switch and they've been working perfectly. I ordered these and haven't had any issues with them.

          http://www.natex.us/product-p/sfpcables24.htm

          Your server(s) have these connections on them? I haven't dealt with 10G yet, so I have no idea what to expect.

          Yes, I have Intel X520-DA2 NICs installed on my servers.

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          • NashBrydgesN
            NashBrydges @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender One of the servers in my lab is a file server with 56TB drive assigned to the VM. Backup and replication for this were the biggest drivers for looking to move to 10G. Not to mention who wants to wait for a large file to transfer over 1G 😉

            Some of my customers are also moving to 10G in their networks which meant I needed to become more familiar with how best to setup and manage these. It's simple networking, true, but it made sense that I could demonstrate the benefits to clients when necessary.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @NashBrydges
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              @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

              @Dashrender One of the servers in my lab is a file server with 56TB drive assigned to the VM. Backup and replication for this were the biggest drivers for looking to move to 10G. Not to mention who wants to wait for a large file to transfer over 1G 😉

              Some of my customers are also moving to 10G in their networks which meant I needed to become more familiar with how best to setup and manage these. It's simple networking, true, but it made sense that I could demonstrate the benefits to clients when necessary.

              Holy *&%&$ - you have 56 TB at home? What in some deity's name for?

              *other commentary that's meaningless -
              damn that much storage must have set you back a small fortune
              what are you doing running a piracy hosting site out of your house? 😛

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              • NashBrydgesN
                NashBrydges @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                @Dashrender One of the servers in my lab is a file server with 56TB drive assigned to the VM. Backup and replication for this were the biggest drivers for looking to move to 10G. Not to mention who wants to wait for a large file to transfer over 1G 😉

                Some of my customers are also moving to 10G in their networks which meant I needed to become more familiar with how best to setup and manage these. It's simple networking, true, but it made sense that I could demonstrate the benefits to clients when necessary.

                Holy *&%&$ - you have 56 TB at home? What in some deity's name for?

                *other commentary that's meaningless -
                damn that much storage must have set you back a small fortune
                what are you doing running a piracy hosting site out of your house? 😛

                I have a lot more than 56TB but that's just for 1 VM. It's local backup server also has 56TB. Also have another 8TB of SSD stprage to run an array of VMs. The file server is a Plex server for the family and also serves as shared storage for family and friends (remote CIFS storage added to a NextCloud VM). It's only about 70% utilized right now but it keeps growing as more family photos and videos are added almost every day.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @NashBrydges
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                  @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                  @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                  @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                  @Dashrender One of the servers in my lab is a file server with 56TB drive assigned to the VM. Backup and replication for this were the biggest drivers for looking to move to 10G. Not to mention who wants to wait for a large file to transfer over 1G 😉

                  Some of my customers are also moving to 10G in their networks which meant I needed to become more familiar with how best to setup and manage these. It's simple networking, true, but it made sense that I could demonstrate the benefits to clients when necessary.

                  Holy *&%&$ - you have 56 TB at home? What in some deity's name for?

                  *other commentary that's meaningless -
                  damn that much storage must have set you back a small fortune
                  what are you doing running a piracy hosting site out of your house? 😛

                  I have a lot more than 56TB but that's just for 1 VM. It's local backup server also has 56TB. Also have another 8TB of SSD stprage to run an array of VMs. The file server is a Plex server for the family and also serves as shared storage for family and friends (remote CIFS storage added to a NextCloud VM). It's only about 70% utilized right now but it keeps growing as more family photos and videos are added almost every day.

                  And this is a home lab only?

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                  • NashBrydgesN
                    NashBrydges @dafyre
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                    @dafyre Yes. I run my business from home so the lab does have production components but the business portion used to actually run and maintain my business is a pretty small footprint.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Why so much storage for backups? Do you have more than just the 8 TB of SSD VM storage?

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                      • NashBrydgesN
                        NashBrydges @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender The file server VM is currently at about 40TB used of 56TB available. Plus a number of other VMs that are all together using about 3-6TB (depending how many VMs I'm testing with at any one time). In total, I have a need for close to 46TB of backup space when you add it all up.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          lol - you have more storage, etc at home than my office does.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                            lol - you have more storage, etc at home than my office does.

                            My lab is similar to that, too 😉

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                              @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                              lol - you have more storage, etc at home than my office does.

                              My lab is similar to that, too 😉

                              You're lab is in a DC in Cali 😉

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                              • hobbit666H
                                hobbit666
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                                @NashBrydges what do you use for backups of the lab?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                  @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                  lol - you have more storage, etc at home than my office does.

                                  My lab is similar to that, too 😉

                                  You're lab is in a DC in Cali 😉

                                  Now it is, but I had 30TB+ at home before moving that part into the big lab.

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                                  • NashBrydgesN
                                    NashBrydges @hobbit666
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                                    @hobbit666 I use Veeam B&R.

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                                    • RomoR
                                      Romo @NashBrydges
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                                      @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                      @Romo Yep, that's the EdgeMax version but at $599 and good luck finding it at that price and in stock (usually in preorder status). Canadian resellers have been advertising this one at around $899 CDN but no stock. And this price point is more difficult to obtain the WAF (wife approval factor) than the $299 price.

                                      Didn't really check out the price, I was actually just telling @JaredBusch an edge max version appeared to exist.

                                      And by the way you did get a good price for the Unify versionof the switch, this is the price I see from your link
                                      0_1480613021842_Unifi-switch-16xg.png

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Romo
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                                        @Romo said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                        @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                        @Romo Yep, that's the EdgeMax version but at $599 and good luck finding it at that price and in stock (usually in preorder status). Canadian resellers have been advertising this one at around $899 CDN but no stock. And this price point is more difficult to obtain the WAF (wife approval factor) than the $299 price.

                                        Didn't really check out the price, I was actually just telling @JaredBusch an edge max version appeared to exist.

                                        And by the way you did get a good price for the Unify versionof the switch, this is the price I see from your link

                                        If you are signed in and part of the beta program you see the $299

                                        0_1480613172480_upload-76f0f8b2-4547-4752-a332-cec5e9256da2

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @NashBrydges
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                                          @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                          @Dashrender said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                          How much are the sfp+ you need for it?

                                          I've been using DAC cables with my EdgeMax switch and they've been working perfectly. I ordered these and haven't had any issues with them.

                                          http://www.natex.us/product-p/sfpcables24.htm

                                          TIL those are a thing

                                          Don't know why I'm surprised but I am

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @NashBrydges
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                                            @NashBrydges said in Been Wanting 10Gb Lab For A While:

                                            @Dashrender The file server VM is currently at about 40TB used of 56TB available. Plus a number of other VMs that are all together using about 3-6TB (depending how many VMs I'm testing with at any one time). In total, I have a need for close to 46TB of backup space when you add it all up.

                                            https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lJ74lLwV--/qwvqzcd8fihpckinto5f.jpg

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