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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee @olivier
      last edited by

      @olivier
      Great news. This product keeps getting better!
      File level restore, hyperconverged architecture......

      Per @scottalanmiller imagine if you could also manage Hyper-V in that same console?

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      • hobbit666H
        hobbit666
        last edited by

        Will be keeping an eye on this 😄 will be keen to have a play (when I get two servers spare lol)

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee
          last edited by

          @olivier Will there be a beta, when is the ETA?

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          • olivierO
            olivier
            last edited by

            Probably a beta one day, but it's really to soon to have an ETA. I'm only on preliminary tests stage, so it seems to work, I have to:

            • find the right settings
            • make various tests in 2 hosts scenario
            • reproduce the recipe when it seems OK after tests

            Then, the automatisation phase would be a bit tricky, in order to "package" a turnkey thing.

            My biggest interrogation now more about speed than resiliency (which seems OK).

            But sure, as soon I got a minimal viable product, I'll open a beta.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @olivier
              last edited by

              @olivier
              Do you plan to support more than a 2 node setup?

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              • olivierO
                olivier
                last edited by

                That's very likely, but one step at a time 😉

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @olivier
                  last edited by

                  @olivier Totally understand, but, you can't blame a guy for getting excited 🤤

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier
                    last edited by

                    Haha sure 😉

                    Hope the test would be conclusive. I have no guarantee, I'm exploring.

                    Imagine if only I had a bigger team 😄

                    Let's keep up posted!

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @olivier
                      last edited by

                      @olivier said

                      Imagine if only I had a bigger team 😄

                      Well at least you have some willing testers here at ML. 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        I'm very interested to learn more about how the storage will be approached.

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                        • olivierO
                          olivier @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller I have multiple angles of attack, I'm currently benching and establishing pros/cons for each approach.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee
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                            @olivier
                            I think you should move this "hyperconverged" feature up on the release schedule 😲

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier
                              last edited by

                              I have file level restore on top right now 😉

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @olivier
                                last edited by

                                @olivier said in XenServer hyperconverged:

                                I have file level restore on top right now 😉

                                I realize that.
                                File restore won't be unhappy at occupying the #2 spot, will it? jk

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee It doesn't work like that.

                                  Playing/exploring a technology is one thing, releasing a minimal viable product is another one. Maybe my exploration will finish by a "it will be better to wait for SmapiV3 in XenServer" verdict.

                                  I set some goals, I'll try to reach them but I can guarantee anything. About the file level restore, our lead dev work on it, not me. So I try to have my "tech time" on this (which is a bit hard considering I'm doing a lot of not technical work)

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks for the detailed explanation.

                                    Just curious, but what is "SmapiV3 in XenServer"?

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                                    • olivierO
                                      olivier
                                      last edited by

                                      At least a modular storage "API" for XenServer: http://xapi-project.github.io/xapi/futures/smapiv3/smapiv3.html

                                      It will allow to plug any filesystem/share into XenServer via "simple" plugins.

                                      For me, that's the best "neat" solution coming, but it's not yet ready.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        Thx for the explanation & link.

                                        Keep up the great work, you have a fantastic product (I know I'm not the 1st one to tell you that)

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                                        • olivierO
                                          olivier
                                          last edited by olivier

                                          Hey there,

                                          If anyone can make some quick benchmark if you have any Windows based VM: using Crystal Disk Mark (latest, 5.2 I think) with the default parameters (5/1GiB)

                                          Done tests on Windows Server 2016 (TP5, yeah I know I'm late) and I would like to compare how much I can lose in a hyperconverged scenario.

                                          Also, telling the SR type and the physical device underneath would be great 🙂 Thanks!

                                          edit: no worries, I'm not here to compare apples to apples, just want a quick order of magnitude.

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                                          • DanpD
                                            Danp @olivier
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                                            @olivier Here are my results (Windows Server 2008, LVM, Raid 10, 8x 15K spinning rust) --

                                            Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 416.270 MB/s
                                            Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 412.617 MB/s
                                            Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 14.298 MB/s [ 3490.7 IOPS]
                                            Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 17.564 MB/s [ 4288.1 IOPS]
                                            Sequential Read (T= 1) : 321.305 MB/s
                                            Sequential Write (T= 1) : 273.068 MB/s
                                            Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 1.218 MB/s [ 297.4 IOPS]
                                            Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 12.264 MB/s [ 2994.1 IOPS]

                                            Test : 1024 MiB [C: 75.9% (56.9/75.0 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]

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