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    • coliverC
      coliver @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

      Yeah - many tools don't like to touch HDs pulled from Windows systems that aren't cleanly shut down. If you don't care about the data on it, just format it and then run your tools.

      If you do care about data recovery, definitely try going back to the original laptop and getting a clean shutdown. I normally do this by pulling all power (wall and battery) then doing a clean boot. The system will typically say it sees a hibernation file and ask to use or delete. Deleting of course will cause you to loose any unsaved data, but normally does allow you back into the system.

      I've only seen this behavior when the drive was corrupted. You can still manage to pull some stuff off of it via a recovery tool or *nix but Windows doesn't like it.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by

        You can reset the unclean flag from within Linux... Sadly, I can't remember what the command is, but I've used it a few times.

        Google says "ntfsfix", but I'm not sure that's it.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          I'm not saying you can't use the tools, only that they advise against it while the drive is in an unclean state.

          Don't read in more than I type. 🙂

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

            I'm not saying you can't use the tools, only that they advise against it while the drive is in an unclean state.

            Don't read in more than I type. 🙂

            The one I'm thinking of actually works and fixes the problem and doesn't corrupt data... hopefully.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @dafyre
              last edited by Dashrender

              @dafyre said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

              @Dashrender said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

              I'm not saying you can't use the tools, only that they advise against it while the drive is in an unclean state.

              Don't read in more than I type. 🙂

              The one I'm thinking of actually works and fixes the problem and doesn't corrupt data... hopefully.

              Right, yours just changes a flag maybe just a single bit on the drive

              Spinrite for example will complain when you try to have it scan an unclean drive.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
                last edited by

                If nothing else, just boot the install CD from another computer and chkdsk from the command prompt. 😄

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  wow that was a badly messed up post from a mobile (on android) post.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse
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                    I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                    So I will start looking..

                    Lenovo?

                    Surface?

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                      wow that was a badly messed up post from a mobile (on android) post.

                      Augh?

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @gjacobse
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                        @gjacobse said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                        I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                        So I will start looking..

                        Lenovo?

                        Surface?

                        Surely you jest, ha ha... I'm fond of Acer.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                          @gjacobse said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                          I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                          So I will start looking..

                          Lenovo?

                          Surface?

                          Surely you jest, ha ha... I'm fond of Acer.

                          Yea,.. I do jest. the Surface seems like a 'good idea' but done badly. Not going there. Unless someone wants to just outright give me one.

                          This was an ACER the 2 n 1 which lasted 23 months. (Warranty expired Feb 2016).

                          I would go either ACER, ASUS or Dell...

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                            I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                            So I will start looking..

                            Lenovo?

                            Surface?

                            I know a company that should probably get rid of their surfaces...

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                            • StrongBadS
                              StrongBad
                              last edited by

                              Acer isn't bad. I've had a few and they have help up okay. Don't think about them too much anymore. Like Toshiba they seem to have faded from popularity.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @StrongBad
                                last edited by

                                @StrongBad said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                Acer isn't bad. I've had a few and they have help up okay. Don't think about them too much anymore. Like Toshiba they seem to have faded from popularity.

                                Not for this guy. My laptop is coming up on 2 years old, and still runs like a champ... I just hope it stays that way, lol.

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse
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                                  I have a Dell that is I don't know how many years old... running fine.

                                  And a EEE-PC that is still running as well. I'm considering dropping a 120SSD in it to move to linux as it was / is WinXP.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @gjacobse
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @gjacobse said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                    I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                                    So I will start looking..

                                    Lenovo?

                                    Surface?

                                    Did you seriously just mention Lenovo and still have a job with NTG?

                                    *edit
                                    OK now I see with the surface mentioned also, you must be kidding.

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                                    • Minion QueenM
                                      Minion Queen @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                      @gjacobse said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                      I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                                      So I will start looking..

                                      Lenovo?

                                      Surface?

                                      Did you seriously just mention Lenovo and still have a job with NTG?

                                      *edit
                                      OK now I see with the surface mentioned also, you must be kidding.

                                      oh he better be

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Minion Queen
                                        last edited by

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                        @Dashrender said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                        @gjacobse said in Windows 10 unClean Shutdown:

                                        I won't know until tomorrow how fairs my data,.. however in the mean time, I guess I"m in the market for a new laptop. This one didn't make two years,.. and it's hardly traveled... so no harsh bumping.

                                        So I will start looking..

                                        Lenovo?

                                        Surface?

                                        Did you seriously just mention Lenovo and still have a job with NTG?

                                        *edit
                                        OK now I see with the surface mentioned also, you must be kidding.

                                        oh he better be

                                        LOL - nice..

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse @Minion Queen
                                          last edited by

                                          I'll go back to Dell before I get a Surface...

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                                          • gjacobseG
                                            gjacobse
                                            last edited by

                                            First Consideration:

                                            ASUS ZenBook UX305FA

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