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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

      The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
        last edited by MattSpeller

        @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

        I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

        The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

        HoF - agreed

        that thing is a trooper

        Electrolytic capacitors in the PSU contain liquid that evaporates over time. I'd be willing to bet you $10 the surge from power up let out the magic smoke from one or more of them.

        Example of over heated capacitors:
        220px-Al-Elko-bad-caps-Wiki-07-02-17.jpg

        Exploded capacitor:
        440px-Exploded_Electrolytic_Capacitor.jpg

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        • momurdaM
          momurda @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

          I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

          The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

          Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
          Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @momurda
            last edited by

            @momurda said in One too many restarts for this server.:

            @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

            I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

            The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

            Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
            Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

            Which totally paid off for them 🙂

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

              I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

              The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

              The glass was just too fragile. If he'd left it alone, or moved it while it was running [if possible], it would have been fine, lol.

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              • Reid CooperR
                Reid Cooper
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                Maybe the glass had the wrong stuff in it.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @momurda
                  last edited by MattSpeller

                  @momurda said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                  I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

                  The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

                  Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
                  Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

                  If you replace the PSU's proactively every 6-8 years servers should go for a very .... very... long time. Especially with older stuff where electron migration is really a non-issue. Can even replace the caps on the mobo with a soldering iron, testicular fortitude and $5 worth of parts.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    @MattSpeller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                    @momurda said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                    I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

                    The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

                    Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
                    Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

                    If you replace the PSU's proactively every 6-8 years servers should go for a very .... very... long time. Especially with older stuff where electron migration is really a non-issue. Can even replace the caps on the mobo with a soldering iron, testicular fortitude and $5 worth of parts.

                    Problem is, that not every bad capacitor looks like one. Could also be a cold soldering point, for example.

                    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering
                    • https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-guide-excellent-soldering/common-problems
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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @thwr
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                      @thwr said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                      @MattSpeller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                      @momurda said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                      I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

                      The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

                      Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
                      Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

                      If you replace the PSU's proactively every 6-8 years servers should go for a very .... very... long time. Especially with older stuff where electron migration is really a non-issue. Can even replace the caps on the mobo with a soldering iron, testicular fortitude and $5 worth of parts.

                      Problem is, that not every bad capacitor looks like one. Could also be a cold soldering point, for example.

                      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering
                      • https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-guide-excellent-soldering/common-problems

                      And be extra cautious when handling large capacitators found in in PSUs or HiFi devices: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/captest.htm#ctsaf, http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/safety.htm

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @thwr
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                        @thwr said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                        @thwr said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                        @MattSpeller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                        @momurda said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                        I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

                        The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

                        Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
                        Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

                        If you replace the PSU's proactively every 6-8 years servers should go for a very .... very... long time. Especially with older stuff where electron migration is really a non-issue. Can even replace the caps on the mobo with a soldering iron, testicular fortitude and $5 worth of parts.

                        Problem is, that not every bad capacitor looks like one. Could also be a cold soldering point, for example.

                        • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering
                        • https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-guide-excellent-soldering/common-problems

                        And be extra cautious when handling large capacitators found in in PSUs or HiFi devices: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/captest.htm#ctsaf, http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/safety.htm

                        At least it's not the old CRT tubes! We didn't learn to fix the things in school, but we learned all about needing to ground the things out as soon as the outside case comes off.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @travisdh1
                          last edited by

                          @travisdh1 said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                          @thwr said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                          @thwr said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                          @MattSpeller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                          @momurda said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in One too many restarts for this server.:

                          I think the blame sits with using it a few days too long.

                          The glass isn't half empty or half full, the glass was too big.

                          Yes I suppose that's correct. I should have retired it sooner, but it was for me a bit like that Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes a new car for a test drive and wants to see how long he can go with the tank on E.
                          Also, someone(s) who worked here from 2010-2015 should have done that way before I started. But they(all of them) didn't do anything, for nearly ten years.

                          If you replace the PSU's proactively every 6-8 years servers should go for a very .... very... long time. Especially with older stuff where electron migration is really a non-issue. Can even replace the caps on the mobo with a soldering iron, testicular fortitude and $5 worth of parts.

                          Problem is, that not every bad capacitor looks like one. Could also be a cold soldering point, for example.

                          • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering
                          • https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-guide-excellent-soldering/common-problems

                          And be extra cautious when handling large capacitators found in in PSUs or HiFi devices: http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/captest.htm#ctsaf, http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/safety.htm

                          At least it's not the old CRT tubes! We didn't learn to fix the things in school, but we learned all about needing to ground the things out as soon as the outside case comes off.

                          Pops and I quit working on the CRT ones about the times the flat screens started coming down in price. It just wasn't worth it for all the hassle for dealing with the CRTs. I had one explode on me while we were testing a repair job, ha ha.

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