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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
      last edited by

      Jurisdiction will be important for the context here.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        He's in the US.

        The company providing the servers is also in the US, and the equipment would be crossing state lines. So with that information I would call a property accountant and have them run the numbers for the tax fees that will be assessed.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          If you are non-profit I think that it's tax free as a donation.

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            TAHIN
            last edited by

            It's not non-profit unfortunately. Private company. I've been chatting with Dustin and I think he's right in that some professional consulting may be in order. Any sort of avoidance seems pretty risky. Thanks for your help!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @TAHIN
              last edited by

              @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

              It's not non-profit unfortunately. Private company. I've been chatting with Dustin and I think he's right in that some professional consulting may be in order. Any sort of avoidance seems pretty risky. Thanks for your help!

              Yes, likely a CPA is needed here.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @TAHIN
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                @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                It's not non-profit unfortunately. Private company. I've been chatting with Dustin and I think he's right in that some professional consulting may be in order. Any sort of avoidance seems pretty risky. Thanks for your help!

                shivers

                Yes - A CPA or such will be needed..

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                  hubtechagain
                  last edited by

                  you should ask the legal dept
                  paging @KOOLER or @Jason

                  #flamesuit

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                    Jason Banned
                    last edited by

                    Ask your finance department, if you have an in house Controller/CPA

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                      Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                      though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Oh and it's not like taking something to Canada either 😉 😛

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                          Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                          Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                          though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                          That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                            last edited by

                            @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                            @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                            Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                            Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                            though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                            That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                            Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                              Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                              Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                              though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                              That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                              Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                              These aren't purchased goods, these are gifts.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                                Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                                though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                                That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                                Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                                You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                  @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                  @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                  Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                                  Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                                  though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                                  That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                                  Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                                  These aren't purchased goods, these are gifts.

                                  If you look at the quoted items I suggested that the OP not accept a gift, instead to pay for them. Then the value becomes what you paid - unless there is tax code for non home/building/vehicle items at a specific value being sold for less than current value that would then make you have to pay taxes on the current actual value.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                    @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                    @brianlittlejohn said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                    @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                    Why have them donate it. Have them sell the equipment for $1 each. It's not like a house or car where you have to pay property taxes.

                                    Paying the $1 and the tax bill on $1 will probably be substantially less than paying a tax accountant.

                                    though I suppose you could investigate paying $1 for the whole lot.

                                    That doesn't necessarily get you past use taxes on their value.

                                    Is there some new thing I'm unaware of? Aren't typical purchased goods (I'm specifically excluding houses/buildings and vehicles) taxes within the US at the sales rate, regardless of value? I suppose there could be an actual value limitation on this, but I've never heard of it. Is there one?

                                    You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                    See my other post 🙂

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                                      TAHIN @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                      You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                      "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                      I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @TAHIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                        You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                        "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                        I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

                                        Well, if you have no sales or use tax, then you probably don't have anything at all to worry about. What other kind of tax would you be subject to for accepting goods? Computers/servers/printers, and other typical IT related things aren't subject to property tax. I can't think of anything else you'd have to worry about.

                                        I suppose someone could try to claim capital gains taxes? meh?

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                                          TAHIN @TAHIN
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                                          Which is also why I had to google "use tax".

                                          Ignorance sure is bliss!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                            @TAHIN said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Tax question / free hardware:

                                            You are not familiar with use taxes? That's what you owe when you didn't pay sales tax on something.

                                            "The use tax imposes a compensating tax equal in amount to the sales tax that would have been imposed on the sale of the property, if the sale had occurred within the state's taxing jurisdiction."

                                            I thought use tax was imposed according to the state in which the product is being consumed. There's no sales tax in Montana, and therefore no use tax either. There is a small clause for sales and use tax, but that is limited to campgrounds/tourist stuff (go us lol).

                                            Well, if you have no sales or use tax, then you probably don't have anything at all to worry about. What other kind of tax would you be subject to for accepting goods? Computers/servers/printers, and other typical IT related things aren't subject to property tax. I can't think of anything else you'd have to worry about.

                                            I suppose someone could try to claim capital gains taxes? meh?

                                            Any states not have those?

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