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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

        If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

        It funny how I used to not "like" this method when I was new to VMs.

        Now, it's awesome! 🙂

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @BRRABill
          last edited by DustinB3403

          @BRRABill said in Azure Migration:

          @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

          If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

          It funny how I used to not "like" this method when I was new to VMs.

          Now, it's awesome! 🙂

          It works, but isn't awesome IMO.

          Like trying to zip your fly with your tongue after taking a piss. . . (not that I've tried this or anything, it's just always painful IMO)

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Azure Migration:

            @BRRABill said in Azure Migration:

            @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

            If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

            It funny how I used to not "like" this method when I was new to VMs.

            Now, it's awesome! 🙂

            It works, but isn't awesome IMO.

            Like trying to zip your fly with your tongue after taking a piss. . .

            Well, it is loads better than the way I was doing it.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in Azure Migration:

              @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

              If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

              It funny how I used to not "like" this method when I was new to VMs.

              Now, it's awesome! 🙂

              I don't like it, but what else is there?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Azure Migration:

                @BRRABill said in Azure Migration:

                @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

                If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

                It funny how I used to not "like" this method when I was new to VMs.

                Now, it's awesome! 🙂

                It works, but isn't awesome IMO.

                Like trying to zip your fly with your tongue after taking a piss. . . (not that I've tried this or anything, it's just always painful IMO)

                I hate when I have to do that.

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                • NETSN
                  NETS @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

                  If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

                  This was my plan. We have a Storagecraft subscription so this is what we'll plan on doing. Now if we can figure out how to do a headstart restore to Azure we could do it with almost no downtime.

                  We are anticipating this being difficult due to lack of cooperation from the old provider.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @NETS
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                    @NETS said in Azure Migration:

                    We are anticipating this being difficult due to lack of cooperation from the old provider.

                    So the old Azure provider is trying to hold you ransom?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @NETS
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                      @NETS said in Azure Migration:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

                      If that is correct, then you need a tool like StorageCraft or Veeam Endpoint Protection that will do an agent-based full system backup of the VM from inside of the VM itself. Then use that to restore to the new VM.

                      This was my plan. We have a Storagecraft subscription so this is what we'll plan on doing. Now if we can figure out how to do a headstart restore to Azure we could do it with almost no downtime.

                      We are anticipating this being difficult due to lack of cooperation from the old provider.

                      Yes, sounds like it will be a pain. What kind of migration window do you have?

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                      • NETSN
                        NETS @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller

                        A weekend

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Hopefully you are using Azure direct for the new VM? If using Azure, that works the best. Azure has account-related outages, you don't want to be tied to anyone else's account on Azure.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @NETS
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                            @NETS said in Azure Migration:

                            @scottalanmiller

                            A weekend

                            How big of a VM is this?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NETS
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                              @NETS said in Azure Migration:

                              @scottalanmiller

                              A weekend

                              Oh okay, that should be very doable. How big is the VM?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                And a follow up to the VM size, is what is your internet bandwidth like?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Azure Migration:

                                  And a follow up to the VM size, is what is your internet bandwidth like?

                                  Azure to Azure the bandwidth has to be 10Gig easy.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by DustinB3403

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Azure Migration:

                                    And a follow up to the VM size, is what is your internet bandwidth like?

                                    Azure to Azure the bandwidth has to be 10Gig easy.

                                    Do you think they'll be able to go directly between the two? I was thinking he'd have to download the file, and then upload it into the new host.

                                    Direct connection would be way better though.

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                                    • NETSN
                                      NETS
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                                      I know the data store is 500GB in size but I don't think they are using that much.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @NETS
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                                        @NETS said in Azure Migration:

                                        I know the data store is 500GB in size but I don't think they are using that much.

                                        Assuming that was all you had to transfer (500GB) and you had to download it at 30MBps you'd be waiting about a ~2 days to download.

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                                        • NETSN
                                          NETS
                                          last edited by NETS

                                          My thought is to do it from another Azure VM

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Azure Migration:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Azure Migration:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Azure Migration:

                                            And a follow up to the VM size, is what is your internet bandwidth like?

                                            Azure to Azure the bandwidth has to be 10Gig easy.

                                            Do you think they'll be able to go directly between the two? I was thinking he'd have to download the file, and then upload it into the new host.

                                            Direct connection would be way better though.

                                            Directly, yes. Or to an Azure storage point. Don't leave Azure in this whole process.

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