Understanding BASH on Windows
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@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
Good to know.
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@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
What exactly is the difference?
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
What exactly is the difference?
One is a shell on Windows, one is not. It's the difference between a steering wheel attached to the wheels of your car... and a LittleTykes plastic steering wheel on the child seat in the back seat that isn't attached to the car.
That Windows put BASH on Windows is a joke on the users. It's not what people mean, it's not a shell attached to Windows, it's no different than if you install Linux in a VM and that has BASH on it... you can't actually say that that is BASH on Windows with a straight face... and yet, they did.
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@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
What exactly is the difference?
One is a shell on Windows, one is not. It's the difference between a steering wheel attached to the wheels of your car... and a LittleTykes plastic steering wheel on the child seat in the back seat that isn't attached to the car.
That Windows put BASH on Windows is a joke on the users. It's not what people mean, it's not a shell attached to Windows, it's no different than if you install Linux in a VM and that has BASH on it... you can't actually say that that is BASH on Windows with a straight face... and yet, they did.
I'm trying to understand what is really wanted? Do you want to run Linux compiled code on a Windows box? Wouldn't you need a Linux version of WINE on Windows for that?
I never really understood the desire for BASH on Windows - you SSH into a Linux box and there's your BASH - go to town. I suppose what MS was missing was good built in SSH client.
MS has Powershell instead of BASH to control Windows things. I suppose you want BASH so you can control Linux boxes from Windows, I guess that makes sense. It's lost in translation to me. -
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I suppose what MS was missing was good built in SSH client.
Try out Putty if you have not already
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@MattSpeller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I suppose what MS was missing was good built in SSH client.
Try out Putty if you have not already
Of course, but MS still doesn't have one included.. that was my point. But I guess they do now with their sudo BASH
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
What exactly is the difference?
One is a shell on Windows, one is not. It's the difference between a steering wheel attached to the wheels of your car... and a LittleTykes plastic steering wheel on the child seat in the back seat that isn't attached to the car.
That Windows put BASH on Windows is a joke on the users. It's not what people mean, it's not a shell attached to Windows, it's no different than if you install Linux in a VM and that has BASH on it... you can't actually say that that is BASH on Windows with a straight face... and yet, they did.
I'm trying to understand what is really wanted? Do you want to run Linux compiled code on a Windows box? Wouldn't you need a Linux version of WINE on Windows for that?
Yes, you would. The reason the advertising was misleading prior to the release is because it was implied you wouldn't need any of that. Then during the release it became more clear it was nothing more than lack of compatibility.
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I never really understood the desire for BASH on Windows - you SSH into a Linux box and there's your BASH - go to town.
I'm confused. No connection between SSH and BASH.
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I suppose what MS was missing was good built in SSH client.
No, PowerShell has had that.
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I never really understood the desire for BASH on Windows
Exact same reason as wanting it anywhere else. What is there to understand? People want a mature, well known shell on Windows that is standard on EVERY other system.
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
MS has Powershell instead of BASH to control Windows things. I suppose you want BASH so you can control Linux boxes from Windows, I guess that makes sense. It's lost in translation to me.
BASH does nothing like that. You are confusing BASH with SSH. BASH has no remote capabilities, it's a shell. We want BASH instead of PS. PS can control Linux remotely via SSH, no BASH needed.
We've had BASH on WIndows for 20 years and people use it because it's mature and well known.
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@BBigford said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
What exactly is the difference?
One is a shell on Windows, one is not. It's the difference between a steering wheel attached to the wheels of your car... and a LittleTykes plastic steering wheel on the child seat in the back seat that isn't attached to the car.
That Windows put BASH on Windows is a joke on the users. It's not what people mean, it's not a shell attached to Windows, it's no different than if you install Linux in a VM and that has BASH on it... you can't actually say that that is BASH on Windows with a straight face... and yet, they did.
I'm trying to understand what is really wanted? Do you want to run Linux compiled code on a Windows box? Wouldn't you need a Linux version of WINE on Windows for that?
Yes, you would. The reason the advertising was misleading prior to the release is because it was implied you wouldn't need any of that. Then during the release it became more clear it was nothing more than lack of compatibility.
Actually, it implied that it WAS that. They make it sound like this was the WINE equivalent. But it isn't, it's just a worthless container.
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@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@MattSpeller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I suppose what MS was missing was good built in SSH client.
Try out Putty if you have not already
Of course, but MS still doesn't have one included.. that was my point. But I guess they do now with their sudo BASH
Yes, they do and it has zero connection to BASH.
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@MattSpeller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@Dashrender said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
I suppose what MS was missing was good built in SSH client.
Try out Putty if you have not already
Putty is way better than the built in one. But they have their own as well. Their own SSH server, too.
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^ Way to derail a thread....
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There we go, forked it all out.
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Epic typo or intentional awesome?
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Fixed
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@scottalanmiller said in Understanding BASH on Windows:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
We had a discussion about this on SW
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@thwr said in Understanding BASH on Windows:
@scottalanmiller said in Understanding BASH on Windows:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@scottalanmiller said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@zuphzuph said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
@travisdh1 said in Show me the $PowerShell.:
What if I work in Bash instead of PowerShell?
Can't fault you for that. But I'd call you bleeding edge.
BASH via CygWin on Windows is like 20 years old.
I was throw with the release of the BASH shell in 10, my b.
That's BASH on a Linux pseudo-VM running on top of Windows, not BASH on Windows itself. It's useless. Only working BASH is in Cygwin.
We had a discussion about this on SW
Yup
