Backing up Office 365 mailboxes
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Thanks SAM.
These guys are too big for us. I believe they typically start with 50 mailboxes and it requires SQL on prem.
We work with smaller businesses 5-50 users so dont think they are the best fit..... Any other ideas?I was going to look at GFI Mail Essentials and see if that does the trick.
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Totally agreeing with @JaredBusch here. A major component of the concept of going with a MS-hosted solution is that the onus is on MS as the service provider to guarantee your mail. It kind of takes care of any need for backups of that data.
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@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
Totally agreeing with @JaredBusch here. A major component of the concept of going with a MS-hosted solution is that the onus is on MS as the service provider to guarantee your mail. It kind of takes care of any need for backups of that data.
Even if you get Phished and somebody deletes all your emails?
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@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
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@dafyre said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
Totally agreeing with @JaredBusch here. A major component of the concept of going with a MS-hosted solution is that the onus is on MS as the service provider to guarantee your mail. It kind of takes care of any need for backups of that data.
Even if you get Phished and somebody deletes all your emails?
Yes, if you opt for the legal hold options on O365, they protect against that.
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@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
This is the key statement.
What degree of risk (to your company) is any given scenario.
This is how you decide what you need.
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@Joel said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
I was going to look at GFI Mail Essentials and see if that does the trick.
This is what we use. I wouldn't recommend it. But I think you either need a third-party archiving service like GFI or the legal hold options on O365, neither of which is particularly low-cost, I believe.
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@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
Interesting - so MS has no option for restoring a mailbox in this scenario if you don't have the legal hold option?
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Sky Kick seems like a nice option
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@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
Interesting - so MS has no option for restoring a mailbox in this scenario if you don't have the legal hold option?
Correct. MS ensure that THEY do not lose your email. They don't ensure that YOU don't decide to get rid of it then want it back.
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@scottalanmiller said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
Interesting - so MS has no option for restoring a mailbox in this scenario if you don't have the legal hold option?
Correct. MS ensure that THEY do not lose your email. They don't ensure that YOU don't decide to get rid of it then want it back.
How about Recover deleted items from server? Is that around in Outlook on the Web in O365? i.e. you log into your email and notice it's all gone - ok go to recover deleted items, restore.
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@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
Interesting - so MS has no option for restoring a mailbox in this scenario if you don't have the legal hold option?
Correct. MS ensure that THEY do not lose your email. They don't ensure that YOU don't decide to get rid of it then want it back.
How about Recover deleted items from server? Is that around in Outlook on the Web in O365? i.e. you log into your email and notice it's all gone - ok go to recover deleted items, restore.
Yes that exists.
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Any thoughts on Barracuda? We've used their mail security and filtering services in the past, no idea how good they are for 365
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@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
Interesting - so MS has no option for restoring a mailbox in this scenario if you don't have the legal hold option?
Indeed. There is no insurance against self destructive loss.
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@jt1001001 said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
Any thoughts on Barracuda? We've used their mail security and filtering services in the past, no idea how good they are for 365
They had an open back door in their security appliances for "remote support" that was reported last year. I wouldn't trust their stuff with a 10 foot pole.
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@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@jt1001001 said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
Any thoughts on Barracuda? We've used their mail security and filtering services in the past, no idea how good they are for 365
They had an open back door in their security appliances for "remote support" that was reported last year. I wouldn't trust their stuff with a 10 foot pole.
Yeah, they are on my avoid list. People tend to like them, but they are not cheap and I don't trust them.
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@JaredBusch said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@scottalanmiller said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@art_of_shred said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@dafyre I guess you make a good point there, but is that a real problem? I've not heard of that happening, at least not to any degree that I worry about it.
Interesting - so MS has no option for restoring a mailbox in this scenario if you don't have the legal hold option?
Correct. MS ensure that THEY do not lose your email. They don't ensure that YOU don't decide to get rid of it then want it back.
How about Recover deleted items from server? Is that around in Outlook on the Web in O365? i.e. you log into your email and notice it's all gone - ok go to recover deleted items, restore.
Yes that exists.
Well, then sounds like a reasonable solution for the aforementioned phishing attack/delete issue.
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We use barracuda archivers here.
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@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@jt1001001 said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
Any thoughts on Barracuda? We've used their mail security and filtering services in the past, no idea how good they are for 365
They had an open back door in their security appliances for "remote support" that was reported last year. I wouldn't trust their stuff with a 10 foot pole.
The back door was only accessible from barracuda network it was also not on the archivers. Many companies have a method like this unitrends, Cisco, emc all have this.
Also if your emails in the cloud, Microsoft has access into your 0365 too.
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@Jason said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@Dashrender said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
@jt1001001 said in Backing up Office 365 mailboxes:
Any thoughts on Barracuda? We've used their mail security and filtering services in the past, no idea how good they are for 365
They had an open back door in their security appliances for "remote support" that was reported last year. I wouldn't trust their stuff with a 10 foot pole.
The back door was only accessible from barracuda network it was also not on the archivers. Many companies have a method like this unitrends, Cisco, emc all have this.
Also if your emails in the cloud, Microsoft has access into your 0365 too.
But it WAS on their firewalls! And "only accessible from their network" only requires spoofing their network. Unitrends does not have that.
