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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      US Gift taxes are paid by the donor not the donee.

      The Federal annual exclusion for 2016 is $14,000.

      It gets more complicated when the donee's state then marks it as income and taxes it as such, but generally most states match the gift exclusions to the federal amounts.

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      • NashBrydgesN
        NashBrydges @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

        @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

        @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

        But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?

        Yeah, no kidding. At today's exchange rates. Lol

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        • NashBrydgesN
          NashBrydges @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

          I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

          Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

          border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

          Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

          "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

          Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

          https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

          And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

          What's the tax on that?

          You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

          Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

          2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

          Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

          YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

          For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

          One thing I learned recently is that there are no duties to be paid on purchases that are coming in from the US like a used server. Buying new means that the country of original build will decide if there are duty fees to be paid in addition to taxes. Purchasing servers in the US means I only pay the taxes of the CDN declared value. That being said, shippers like FedEx will charge their own CLearance Entry fees and Advancement Fees so unless you have an account with the shippers, these tacked-on fees make it too expensive to buy from the US, even if you do find a crazy good deal.

          😞

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @NashBrydges
            last edited by

            @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

            @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

            border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

            Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

            "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

            Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

            https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

            And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

            What's the tax on that?

            You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

            Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

            2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

            Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

            YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

            For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

            That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
              last edited by

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

              @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

              Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

              border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

              Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

              "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

              Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

              https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

              And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

              What's the tax on that?

              You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

              Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

              2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

              Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

              YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

              For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

              That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

              The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

              @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                And they certainly don't mandate a search of your car when coming back from Canada the last that I knew.

                If there is nothing to declare, they can mind their own business.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
                  last edited by

                  @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                  Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                  border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                  Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                  "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                  Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                  https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                  And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                  What's the tax on that?

                  You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                  Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                  2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                  Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                  YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                  For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                  One thing I learned recently is that there are no duties to be paid on purchases that are coming in from the US like a used server. Buying new means that the country of original build will decide if there are duty fees to be paid in addition to taxes. Purchasing servers in the US means I only pay the taxes of the CDN declared value. That being said, shippers like FedEx will charge their own CLearance Entry fees and Advancement Fees so unless you have an account with the shippers, these tacked-on fees make it too expensive to buy from the US, even if you do find a crazy good deal.

                  😞

                  Yeah, we've researched it a lot for clients in Canada and for our own Canadian facilities. We can get amazing colocation in Canada that is both cheap and SO close as NTG HQ is right on the border. But in the end, there is no winning that way and it just isn't worth it to cross the border.

                  The only thing that really works for Canadians is to buy and keep all servers in the US. Buy Dell via xByte and host in Colocation America and work that way. Almost no one needs on premises servers today, those that do AND want to be in Canada are just screwed.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                    last edited by

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                    Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                    border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                    Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                    "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                    Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                    https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                    And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                    What's the tax on that?

                    You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                    Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                    2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                    Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                    YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                    For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                    That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                    Yup, that gets us. Cheap servers at the border turn into more money for taxes than for the servers!

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by gjacobse

                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                      I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                      Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                      border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                      Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                      "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                      Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                      https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                      And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                      What's the tax on that?

                      You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                      Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                      2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                      Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                      YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                      For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                      That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                      The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

                      @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

                      I need to pass a security background check for basically any IT job that's worth having. That would be a life f(***)ing event if they caught me.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                        I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                        Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                        border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                        Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                        "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                        Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                        https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                        And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                        What's the tax on that?

                        You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                        Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                        2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                        Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                        YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                        For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                        That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                        The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

                        @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

                        They don't MANDATE a search of your car. But if they do, that's jail time. Who risks jail to save their employer money?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                          And they certainly don't mandate a search of your car when coming back from Canada the last that I knew.

                          If there is nothing to declare, they can mind their own business.

                          But the search rate is REALLY high. Pay attention at the border, they search all the time.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            I've been searched entering Canada with the only reason being that my luggage was a questionable colour.

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                              @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                              I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                              Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                              border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                              Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                              "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                              Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                              https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                              And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                              What's the tax on that?

                              You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                              Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                              2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                              Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                              YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                              For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                              That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                              The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

                              @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

                              They don't MANDATE a search of your car. But if they do, that's jail time. Who risks jail to save their employer money?

                              Jail is a joke compared to losing your career.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                last edited by

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                                What's the tax on that?

                                You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                                Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                                2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                                Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                                YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                                For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                                That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                                The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

                                @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

                                They don't MANDATE a search of your car. But if they do, that's jail time. Who risks jail to save their employer money?

                                Jail is a joke compared to losing your career.

                                Ha. At least in the US, it's illegal to fire someone for not breaking the law. If they try to do that, your job is protected.

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                  Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                  border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                  Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                  "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                  Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                  https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                  And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                                  What's the tax on that?

                                  You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                                  Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                                  2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                                  Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                                  YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                                  For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                                  That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                                  The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

                                  @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

                                  They don't MANDATE a search of your car. But if they do, that's jail time. Who risks jail to save their employer money?

                                  Jail is a joke compared to losing your career.

                                  Ha. At least in the US, it's illegal to fire someone for not breaking the law. If they try to do that, your job is protected.

                                  Nah, I meant if you get caught doing something dumb like that even for yourself it's still most likely the end of your IT career.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
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                                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

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                                    I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                    Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                    border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                    Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                    "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                    Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                    https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                    And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                                    What's the tax on that?

                                    You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                                    Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                                    2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                                    Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                                    YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

                                    For Ontario, Customs will charge me the HST (13%) of the Canadian value of the converted stated cost. So if the server is $2,500 USD, they will convert to CDN and then tag on 13% tax.

                                    That's if customs even agree that it is worth what you paid. Nothing says they can't say it's worth way more than that in Canada (and they would indeed be correct)

                                    The question I keep asking myself on this topic is why bother to declare anything? When you enter Canada (unless something has changed recently) they don't mandate a search of you car.

                                    @MattSpeller are you Mexican looking, maybe that's why they also want to search your vehicle...

                                    They don't MANDATE a search of your car. But if they do, that's jail time. Who risks jail to save their employer money?

                                    Jail is a joke compared to losing your career.

                                    Ha. At least in the US, it's illegal to fire someone for not breaking the law. If they try to do that, your job is protected.

                                    Nah, I meant if you get caught doing something dumb like that even for yourself it's still most likely the end of your IT career.

                                    OH okay. Ha ha.

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                                    • DashrenderD
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                                      When traveling though Canada because the route was faster, we got searched - so much for saving time, at least an hour at the stop. We just stayed in the US for the return trip.

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                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Virtualization build:

                                        When traveling though Canada because the route was faster, we got searched - so much for saving time, at least an hour at the stop. We just stayed in the US for the return trip.

                                        It's something like 10% of cars get searched.

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                                          We were pulling an empty trailer. Of course they couldn't see inside the trailer, being enclosed. At least that part was fast.. but the luggage in the van, etc.. that still sucked.

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                                          • jt1001001J
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                                            well in our case it's 100%! We have a cottage in Ontario. Last few times we went up we got selected for the "random" search which of course takes 2 hours and we are extremely late getting there. So we have NOT gone up there with the kids because I do not want to go through that with a 3 and a 1 year old.

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