Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?
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We have a few macs. They are not domain joined. The have local accounts, and are encrypted (preventing single user mode bypass/reset of passwords without damaging files), they just store their AD account in keychain. They have to change their password via RDP. Heck most of their tasks are still done via RDP. The macs they just use for internet and outlook. Pretty dumb if you ask me but Marketing Director seems to like it. Guess he fits in at Starbucks with other marketing folks.
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@Jason said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
We have a few macs. They are not domain joined. The have local accounts, and are encrypted (preventing single user mode bypass/reset of passwords without damaging files), they just store their AD account in keychain. They have to change their password via RDP. Heck most of their tasks are still done via RDP. The macs they just use for internet and outlook. Pretty dumb if you ask me but Marketing Director seems to like it. Guess he fits in at Starbucks with other marketing folks.
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
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@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
is that even still true? Macs and Windows machines run the same hardware. Most, if not all of the editing software that used to be Mac-centric is also available on Windows. What I don't know - all things being equal except price, is the Mac faster?
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@Dashrender said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
is that even still true? Macs and Windows machines run the same hardware. Most, if not all of the editing software that used to be Mac-centric is also available on Windows. What I don't know - all things being equal except price, is the Mac faster?
I am sure you can do use alot of browser based tools, but I am sure you would probably run into unsupported hiccups. You say except price like there is only a $50 or $100 difference in pricing per unit. Generally you are paying double if not triple for a Mac.
Grandma can use a Lamborghini to get the groceries, but that doesn't make a Lamborghini the best choice for Grandma.
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@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@Dashrender said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
is that even still true? Macs and Windows machines run the same hardware. Most, if not all of the editing software that used to be Mac-centric is also available on Windows. What I don't know - all things being equal except price, is the Mac faster?
I am sure you can do use alot of browser based tools, but I am sure you would probably run into unsupported hiccups. You say except price like there is only a $50 or $100 difference in pricing per unit. Generally you are paying double if not triple for a Mac.
Grandma can use a Lamborghini to get the groceries, but that doesn't make a Lamborghini the best choice for Grandma.
I'm not sure if you are talking about the Mac software versus the Windows software - I was talking more about the hardware. Windows hardware that is on par (i.e. business class machine with similar specs) generally seem to be pretty close to the same cost as a Mac.
I have no clue regarding software side of the house.
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OK. Based on the replies, I will just keep it as is. One less project.
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Install Windows over the OS. Join domain, for non-intensive or specific tasks MacBooks make the best Windows machines.
At least this is what we do for users that insist they must have them.
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The point for these users is the Mac OS
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@Dashrender said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
is that even still true? Macs and Windows machines run the same hardware. Most, if not all of the editing software that used to be Mac-centric is also available on Windows. What I don't know - all things being equal except price, is the Mac faster?
It hasn't been true for years.. People just assume that still.
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@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@Dashrender said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
is that even still true? Macs and Windows machines run the same hardware. Most, if not all of the editing software that used to be Mac-centric is also available on Windows. What I don't know - all things being equal except price, is the Mac faster?
I am sure you can do use alot of browser based tools, but I am sure you would probably run into unsupported hiccups. You say except price like there is only a $50 or $100 difference in pricing per unit. Generally you are paying double if not triple for a Mac.
Grandma can use a Lamborghini to get the groceries, but that doesn't make a Lamborghini the best choice for Grandma.
Browser based? No audio or video editing professional app runs in the browser. Avid Pro Tools is the Standard for Music, for Video it's Avid Media Composer and Adobe Premiere Pro. Final Cut Pro used to be a choice but after the switch from 7 to X it was a consumer app. When there was Final Cut Pro and the integration with Logic Pro, SoundStage their was some argument for macs not anymore. Adobe used to run better on Mac but now Mac OS X is such a bloated OS it runs better on Windows. Font Rendering used to be better than windows, now it's the same.
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@Jason said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
We have a few macs. They are not domain joined. The have local accounts, and are encrypted (preventing single user mode bypass/reset of passwords without damaging files), they just store their AD account in keychain. They have to change their password via RDP. Heck most of their tasks are still done via RDP. The macs they just use for internet and outlook. Pretty dumb if you ask me but Marketing Director seems to like it. Guess he fits in at Starbucks with other marketing folks.
To be clear are marketing department is not a graphic design, web design, video or audio editing team. They work on campagins, corporate account pitches etc. All the other stuff is outsourced.
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@wrx7m said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
The point for these users is the Mac OS
Is this business case or just the users want to have it?
If there is no business case behind it why add the complexity of managing another OS?
Now to @Minion-Queen point if it isn't broke don't fix it, I agree with that stance, but when it comes time for refresh I would be having the conversation.
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Binding is not hard, if adding a new machine and AD is in place already, might make sense. No cost, not much effort.
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@Jason said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@Dashrender said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
@IRJ said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
It's hard to argue actual business usage for a Mac unless you are really doing some heavy music or video editing.
is that even still true? Macs and Windows machines run the same hardware. Most, if not all of the editing software that used to be Mac-centric is also available on Windows. What I don't know - all things being equal except price, is the Mac faster?
I am sure you can do use alot of browser based tools, but I am sure you would probably run into unsupported hiccups. You say except price like there is only a $50 or $100 difference in pricing per unit. Generally you are paying double if not triple for a Mac.
Grandma can use a Lamborghini to get the groceries, but that doesn't make a Lamborghini the best choice for Grandma.
Browser based? No audio or video editing professional app runs in the browser. Avid Pro Tools is the Standard for Music, for Video it's Avid Media Composer and Adobe Premiere Pro. Final Cut Pro used to be a choice but after the switch from 7 to X it was a consumer app. When there was Final Cut Pro and the integration with Logic Pro, SoundStage their was some argument for macs not anymore. Adobe used to run better on Mac but now Mac OS X is such a bloated OS it runs better on Windows. Font Rendering used to be better than windows, now it's the same.
I wasn't tallking about audio or video editing here. I was talking about simple web based business apps that your company may be using.
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These are the graphic designers and are Mac fanatics. I would have ditched them long ago if I could have.
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@wrx7m said in Joining/Binding Macs to AD Domain - Should I Bother?:
These are the graphic designers and are Mac fanatics. I would have ditched them long ago if I could have.
Yeah, who needs graphics designers anyway.
Oh, did you mean the Macs?
