US Completes First Offshore Windfarm

[IRJ]

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Yeah. I was going to say what @scottalanmiller said. The keyword here is OFFSHORE.

[RojoLoco]

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

[IRJ]

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

if you were to get a kayak or jon boat out there. How much metal could you actually steal?

[Brains]

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

So true. We had some in Memphis that were stealing copper off of live power lines. I still feel bad for the people who had their entire house destroyed by crack heads breaking the drywall and stealing the copper power lines. Thank goodness scrap prices have gone down, so its not nearly as bad anymore

[IRJ]

@Brains said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

So true. We had some in Memphis that were stealing copper off of live power lines. I still feel bad for the people who had their entire house destroyed by crack heads breaking the drywall and stealing the copper power lines. Thank goodness scrap prices have gone down, so its not nearly as bad anymore

Accessing landbased power lines and going offshore are two completely different ball games.

[Brains]

@IRJ said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@Brains said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

So true. We had some in Memphis that were stealing copper off of live power lines. I still feel bad for the people who had their entire house destroyed by crack heads breaking the drywall and stealing the copper power lines. Thank goodness scrap prices have gone down, so its not nearly as bad anymore

Accessing landbased power lines and going offshore are two completely different ball games.

true, they would need some kind of multi crack head human bridge to cover that much water. CRACK HEADS UNITE! FORM OF.... BRIDGE!

[IRJ]

Besides you know they are going to have cameras or at a minimum sensors. If something goes missing, they will know right away. It's not like you can go hide out at a buddies house if you are offshore. You are sitting duck until the coast guard gets you. Unless you tip over and die which is about 100x more likely then any of this happening in the first place.

[RojoLoco]

I see that sarcasm in my initial post was not detected. Neverfuckingmind.

[IRJ]

@Brains said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@IRJ said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@Brains said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

So true. We had some in Memphis that were stealing copper off of live power lines. I still feel bad for the people who had their entire house destroyed by crack heads breaking the drywall and stealing the copper power lines. Thank goodness scrap prices have gone down, so its not nearly as bad anymore

Accessing landbased power lines and going offshore are two completely different ball games.

true, they would need some kind of multi crack head human bridge to cover that much water. CRACK HEADS UNITE! FORM OF.... BRIDGE!

[dafyre]

Now if anybody tries to spin up their own wind powered generators for home, they'll be taxed on it, like the folks in Wyoming! [http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sej-wyoming-wind-tax-snap-story.html ... unsure if that article is satire or not]

[travisdh1]

All these "green" solutions end up being really great, but only in a few select places (an offshore island in this case.) What we really need are better ways to transfer generated power over long distances. We currently average a 50% loss before the power even gets to your home/business. Most counties in the US have generator plants around somewhere.

Photovoltaic suddenly becomes absolutely amazing if you can just transfer the power generated over intercontinental distances instead of a few hundred miles without drastic losses.

[Dashrender]

So we go from uglying up the countryside to uglying up the oceans

I know it's been a LONG time since I did any reading on wind turbines, I take it the manufacturing/installation/maintenance costs have actually made them cost effective compared to a decade plus ago.

I heard about a wind farm somewhere in Cali that was left derelict because the cost of maintenance including batteries cost more than the electricity was worth, a lot more.

[bbigford]

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[coliver]

@Dashrender said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

So we go from uglying up the countryside to uglying up the oceans

I know it's been a LONG time since I did any reading on wind turbines, I take it the manufacturing/installation/maintenance costs have actually made them cost effective compared to a decade plus ago.

I heard about a wind farm somewhere in Cali that was left derelict because the cost of maintenance including batteries cost more than the electricity was worth, a lot more.

The windfarms up here don't have batteries and are really, from what I have read, inexpensive to maintain. Much cheaper then the maintenance on a Coal or Nat Gas plant. Granted they produce much less energy.

[Brains]

@IRJ said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@Brains said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@IRJ said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@Brains said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

@RojoLoco said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@BBigford said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@scottalanmiller said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

Generators begin to spin in November

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/the-unlimited-power-of-ocean-winds.html

Now that is how you harness wind power! Geez, up here in the northwest in USA it gets windy on the open farm lands but that's nothing compared to the ocean winds. They should put up generators in Florida. When a hurricane rolls through they'd be super charged if they didn't get totally destroyed.

Guaranteed that in FL, some crackhead would try to steal the wind turbines to sell as scrap metal for crack money. Couldn't be much tougher than ripping copper pipes out of a wall, right?

Crackheads with ocean going vessels and massive wreckage systems? This are out to sea

You underestimate the resourcefulness of a broke crackhead.

So true. We had some in Memphis that were stealing copper off of live power lines. I still feel bad for the people who had their entire house destroyed by crack heads breaking the drywall and stealing the copper power lines. Thank goodness scrap prices have gone down, so its not nearly as bad anymore

Accessing landbased power lines and going offshore are two completely different ball games.

true, they would need some kind of multi crack head human bridge to cover that much water. CRACK HEADS UNITE! FORM OF.... BRIDGE!

[travisdh1]

@coliver said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@Dashrender said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

So we go from uglying up the countryside to uglying up the oceans

I know it's been a LONG time since I did any reading on wind turbines, I take it the manufacturing/installation/maintenance costs have actually made them cost effective compared to a decade plus ago.

I heard about a wind farm somewhere in Cali that was left derelict because the cost of maintenance including batteries cost more than the electricity was worth, a lot more.

The windfarms up here don't have batteries and are really, from what I have read, inexpensive to maintain. Much cheaper then the maintenance on a Coal or Nat Gas plant. Granted they produce much less energy.

Yeah, once in, they require lube and break pad changes is about it.

I honestly couldn't believe how many of those gigantic windmills they've put up in areas that don't get a constant wind. In a constant wind they're great, without a constant wind they're a plague. They actually use electricity from the grid in order to get started. I'll give you one guess how well the work in Ohio away from the lake (on the shore of Lake Erie they're really great.)

[IRJ]

You do not need an island to do this. That is the beauty of it.

[IRJ]

P.S. I used to have a neighbor that used solely green energy. They used wind and solar on their house. We lived on the west bank of the lagoon which is ideal for wind ( bad for boating), but good for energy.

[travisdh1]

@IRJ said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

P.S. I used to have a neighbor that used solely green energy. They used wind and solar on their house. We lived on the west bank of the lagoon which is ideal for wind ( bad for boating), but good for energy.

If money were no object, I'd be using thermal. You can get it anywhere, but drilling a deep enough well is what makes it prohibitively expensive, and it's not so great on a large scale yet from what I know. Secondary to that would be a Thorium or PBR reactor, but the smallest of those are town sized units.

[Dashrender]

@travisdh1 said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

@IRJ said in US Completes First Offshore Windfarm:

P.S. I used to have a neighbor that used solely green energy. They used wind and solar on their house. We lived on the west bank of the lagoon which is ideal for wind ( bad for boating), but good for energy.

If money were no object, I'd be using thermal. You can get it anywhere, but drilling a deep enough well is what makes it prohibitively expensive, and it's not so great on a large scale yet from what I know. Secondary to that would be a Thorium or PBR reactor, but the smallest of those are town sized units.

I looked into geo-thermal for my house - yeah $25-35K to dig a well, it would take decades to pay off, and with the time value of money, totally not worth it.