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    • bbigfordB
      bbigford @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

      @aaronstuder said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

      @BBigford Normally you pick the GUI at login. Do you see anything?

      Yup, just log out and back in. At log in, look for a drop down list of options.

      This is all I get after installing Cinnamon and logging out... Top right drop down doesn't show anything related to Cinnamon.

      0_1471461270928_gnome.png

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        That's the right drop down. It's not populating for some reason.

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        • bbigfordB
          bbigford
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          Even did sudo dnf install @cinnamon-desktop-environment.

          Uninstalled the gnome shell, but couldn't get a cinnamon shell installed. Will pick back up tomorrow.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            No reason to be uninstalling Gnome, in fact that will break things since Cinnamon is built off of Gnome. Why are you uninstalling?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Cinnamon is an extension to Gnome 3, not a replacement of it. Just as MATE is an extension of Gnome 2.

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              • bbigfordB
                bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                No reason to be uninstalling Gnome, in fact that will break things since Cinnamon is built off of Gnome. Why are you uninstalling?

                Did not know it was an extension of Gnome. Strictly a lack of knowledge on my part.

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford
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                  Cinnamon on Fedora doesn't look quite as sleek as it does on Mint...

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @bbigford
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                    @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                    Cinnamon on Fedora doesn't look quite as sleek as it does on Mint...

                    Nope, because the one is just the framework, the other is all set up and tweaked.

                    Use Korora instead. Trust me.

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda
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                      Or you can get crazy and just install many different desktops to try them out.
                      Enlightenment, KDE, Cinnamon, MATE, all available to choose at login.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @bbigford
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                        @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                        @aaronstuder said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                        @BBigford Normally you pick the GUI at login. Do you see anything?

                        Yup, just log out and back in. At log in, look for a drop down list of options.

                        This is all I get after installing Cinnamon and logging out... Top right drop down doesn't show anything related to Cinnamon.

                        0_1471461270928_gnome.png

                        I had to reboot to get other DEs to show up.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @momurda
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                          @momurda said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                          Or you can get crazy and just install many different desktops to try them out.
                          Enlightenment, KDE, Cinnamon, MATE, all available to choose at login.

                          Or i3 🙂

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                          • bbigfordB
                            bbigford @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                            @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                            @aaronstuder said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                            @BBigford Normally you pick the GUI at login. Do you see anything?

                            Yup, just log out and back in. At log in, look for a drop down list of options.

                            This is all I get after installing Cinnamon and logging out... Top right drop down doesn't show anything related to Cinnamon.

                            0_1471461270928_gnome.png

                            I had to reboot to get other DEs to show up.

                            That ended up being the case.

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                            • bbigfordB
                              bbigford
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                              So I went to check out KDE and I couldn't find a match when trying sudo dnf install kde-desktop-environment... I had to do @kde-desktop-environment... Why the need for @ in regards to that package?

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @bbigford
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                                @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                So I went to check out KDE and I couldn't find a match when trying sudo dnf install kde-desktop-environment... I had to do @kde-desktop-environment... Why the need for @ in regards to that package?

                                It's a group of packages. Like yum group install

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                                • bbigfordB
                                  bbigford @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                  @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                  So I went to check out KDE and I couldn't find a match when trying sudo dnf install kde-desktop-environment... I had to do @kde-desktop-environment... Why the need for @ in regards to that package?

                                  It's a group of packages. Like yum group install

                                  So like installing all of the dependencies? Where it's not just one package, it's a grouping of packages...

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                                  • bbigfordB
                                    bbigford
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                                    Also checked out Korora as Scott suggested... Nice. Looking at Zorin right now... also nice. Solus is something that is very odd... still haven't figured out much online. Threads say eopkg is the package manager, but you have to use sudo pisi, not sudo eopkg... haven't spent much time on that one yet. Cause GitHub suggests that pisi is the discontinued package manager... but I have Solus updated to the latest version.

                                    http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solus

                                    " Solus is a Linux distribution built from scratch. It uses a forked version of the PiSi package manager, maintained as "eopkg" "

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @bbigford
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                                        @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                        @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                        So I went to check out KDE and I couldn't find a match when trying sudo dnf install kde-desktop-environment... I had to do @kde-desktop-environment... Why the need for @ in regards to that package?

                                        It's a group of packages. Like yum group install

                                        So like installing all of the dependencies? Where it's not just one package, it's a grouping of packages...

                                        Ya. Kickstart config have the same syntax. If you ever look at the package list you'll see single packages and a group with @ in front.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @stacksofplates
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                                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                          @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                          @BBigford said in Fedora 24 - Replacing Gnome?:

                                          So I went to check out KDE and I couldn't find a match when trying sudo dnf install kde-desktop-environment... I had to do @kde-desktop-environment... Why the need for @ in regards to that package?

                                          It's a group of packages. Like yum group install

                                          So like installing all of the dependencies? Where it's not just one package, it's a grouping of packages...

                                          Ya. Kickstart config have the same syntax. If you ever look at the package list you'll see single packages and a group with @ in front.

                                          Looking at the package list, do you mean it shows something like this (did a dnf list installed)?

                                          0_1471550330754_1.png

                                          If that's the case, how come around the Cinnamon section, there's no @cinnamon-desktop-environment ?

                                          0_1471550361505_2.png

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates
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                                            Well to see the groups you would run dnf group list. I'm not sure if that's exactly what that is showing you.

                                            For example in a minimal kickstart all you will normally see is

                                            %packages
                                            @core 
                                            %end
                                            

                                            I think it's just how they package everything, so you don't have single package dependencies. I could be wrong though, I never looked into it.

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