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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said

      They have licensing for 2003. This is a free update.

      Huh?

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

        @scottalanmiller said

        They have licensing for 2003. This is a free update.

        Huh?

        He means I'm always going to have licensing in place

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
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          Well, I DCPROMOed the one physical DC last night. Nothing seems to have burned down.

          I was having some DNS issues, but I think it was due to the fact that my machine was pointing to the demoted DC (which obviously had the DNS role installed) and it had been gutted by DCPROMO. I removed the role and everything seems OK thus far.

          Though very few users are here. I'll feel better by like 10AM.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

            Well, I DCPROMOed the one physical DC last night. Nothing seems to have burned down.

            I was having some DNS issues, but I think it was due to the fact that my machine was pointing to the demoted DC (which obviously had the DNS role installed) and it had been gutted by DCPROMO. I removed the role and everything seems OK thus far.

            Though very few users are here. I'll feel better by like 10AM.

            Did you update DHCP to no longer pass out the old DC as a DNS option?

            Did you go through all the static IP devices and remove the old DC DNS info from them?

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in DC Demotion Question:

              @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

              Well, I DCPROMOed the one physical DC last night. Nothing seems to have burned down.

              I was having some DNS issues, but I think it was due to the fact that my machine was pointing to the demoted DC (which obviously had the DNS role installed) and it had been gutted by DCPROMO. I removed the role and everything seems OK thus far.

              Though very few users are here. I'll feel better by like 10AM.

              Did you update DHCP to no longer pass out the old DC as a DNS option?

              Did you go through all the static IP devices and remove the old DC DNS info from them?

              Yes and hopefully. 🙂

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by

                Everything is still running fine.

                Next step will be to P2V this puppy and get it on XS.

                Then I'll be even happier!

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  Did you know...

                  Apparently it's a PITA to transfer DHCP to an existing DC?

                  (Countdown to someone saying "just install in on a Linux box" in 5...4...3...)

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                    Did you know...

                    Apparently it's a PITA to transfer DHCP to an existing DC?

                    (Countdown to someone saying "just install in on a Linux box" in 5...4...3...)

                    It is? How so? You can easily backup the DHCP scopes and restore them to the new DC, decom the old one and turn up the new one. I've done it twice in the past without any issues.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill I'm testing domain migrations in my test environment tonight actually. I want to attempt to move from 2003 to 2012.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in DC Demotion Question:

                        @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                        Did you know...

                        Apparently it's a PITA to transfer DHCP to an existing DC?

                        (Countdown to someone saying "just install in on a Linux box" in 5...4...3...)

                        It is? How so? You can easily backup the DHCP scopes and restore them to the new DC, decom the old one and turn up the new one. I've done it twice in the past without any issues.

                        Exactly - what issue are you having? What does it being a DC have to do with it?

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                          tiagom
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                          Is this from 2003 to 2012 R2? If so you can use the Windows Server Migration Tools.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @coliver
                            last edited by BRRABill

                            @coliver said

                            It is? How so? You can easily backup the DHCP scopes and restore them to the new DC, decom the old one and turn up the new one. I've done it twice in the past without any issues.

                            The KB article I read said you have to move the role BEFORE promoting it to a DC, otherwise it's a PITA. Though re-reading it now, it's a bit confusing...

                            "Additionally, if the target Windows 2003 server is a member server, and if you plan to promote it to a domain controller, we suggested that you perform the DHCP database migration before promoting it to a domain controller. Although you can migrate the DHCP database to a Windows 2003 domain controller, the migration to a member server will be easier because of the existence of the local administrator account.

                            1. Log on as a user who is an explicit member of the local Administrators group. A user account in a group that is a member of the local Administrators group will not work. If a local Administrators account does not exist for the domain controller, restart the computer in Directory Services Restore Mode, and use the administrator account to import the database as described later in this section."

                            Ah, I think I read that wrong. I think logging in as a Domain Admin will be OK.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver
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                              Wait.... you're still deploying to Server 2003? Are you the one that is waiting till next month (or November) for 2016 to come out?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in DC Demotion Question:

                                Wait.... you're still deploying to Server 2003? Are you the one that is waiting till next month (or November) for 2016 to come out?

                                Or moving to Samba4.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, those both are me. 🙂

                                  Keep in mind, I was ready to move to 2012, and deided to wait at the advice of ML, which has caused zero issues thus far.

                                  Right now I am in the process of moving all the physical machines to virtual.

                                  Only 2 left. Probably only 1 left at the end of today.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
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                                    Well, DHCP transferred nicely.

                                    It really was that easy.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      Have you looked into the cost of buying Server 2012 with SA versus what 2016 will cost? They are changing the licensing to be core based - I thought I read...

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in DC Demotion Question:

                                        Have you looked into the cost of buying Server 2012 with SA versus what 2016 will cost? They are changing the licensing to be core based - I thought I read...

                                        I did look at the cost.

                                        But really, I am in no hurry. Everything is working fine.

                                        Since I've moved then 2003 servers to VMs (on SSD) they've been blazing fast, even.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                                          @Dashrender said in DC Demotion Question:

                                          Have you looked into the cost of buying Server 2012 with SA versus what 2016 will cost? They are changing the licensing to be core based - I thought I read...

                                          I did look at the cost.

                                          But really, I am in no hurry. Everything is working fine.

                                          Since I've moved then 2003 servers to VMs (on SSD) they've been blazing fast, even.

                                          it's less about hurry, and more about savings.

                                          But really, do you want to be on a non patches OS longer than you have to be? 🙂

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                                            tiagom @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in DC Demotion Question:

                                            @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                                            @Dashrender said in DC Demotion Question:

                                            Have you looked into the cost of buying Server 2012 with SA versus what 2016 will cost? They are changing the licensing to be core based - I thought I read...

                                            I did look at the cost.

                                            But really, I am in no hurry. Everything is working fine.

                                            Since I've moved then 2003 servers to VMs (on SSD) they've been blazing fast, even.

                                            it's less about hurry, and more about savings.

                                            But really, do you want to be on a non patches OS longer than you have to be? 🙂

                                            Agree.

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